Jazz for aficionados

Yes, great links. That live Johnny Griffin Clip is wonderful.

Thanks for your thoughts and great clips, pjw. I agree with all you wrote. Hancock is a genius. I don’t think I have heard anything by him that I have not liked; acoustic or electronic.

And, thanks for your thoughts also, mary_jo. I must say that I got a very different sense of what you were trying to say from your first post on the subject. I appreciate what you are saying; I’m just not sure that such a strong distinction is justified nor accurate. And, I wouldn’t even call the “magic” (emotional reaction) necessarily that “different” in kind.

**** . I would NOT underestimate the power of rose glasses in art in particular, you know, ’cause that is what moves the fan (admirer). And having fan who is moved is what all is about, right? ****


I think we have different views here. I agree, the power of rose colored glasses is very real, but it’s not always a good thing, IMO. Sometimes, factors other than just the music influence a listener’s reaction to it. Having known a performer personally, or having heard a song that one associates with a memorable life experience, or even liking a particular instrument more than another influences the level of “magic” that one experiences from a performance. Very normal, but that is the rose colored glasses effect.

Most serious artists not only would prefer that their art NOT be viewed through rose colored glasses, they don’t feel that having fans is “what it is all about”. They would prefer to be true to their vision of the art and if fans want to come along for the ride that’s great. Of course, some are more compromising than others and all of them have to eat.

Per pjw’s comments re Herbie Hancock. Whatever one may think of electronic music, fusion, funk, whatever one wants to call it, when the playing is on such a high level it doesn’t much matter what one calls it. Purists will say that this record is not on the same level as some of his acoustic offerings. I disagree. In its way, this record is a masterpiece.

https://youtu.be/3m3qOD-hhrQ

Easier to do when your bank accounts are healthy for sure .The Twin Cities , per capita . have the most Forbes 500 executives of
any American City .Hence , a lot of uber rich bi-wigs on the Minnesota Orchestra Board .
They shut the Orchestra down for 2 years because they felt 90K per year is too much to pay a musician .

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Conversation with Andrei Tarkovski, movie director.

Funny, you can hear some exact same words as Frogman says (about film/music not beeing created in vacuum and about influences of one artist on another) or about finding his personal expression

If you have time,very  interesting to hear, a great artist perspective...starts around 3rd.min...)

https://youtu.be/4JRfeshEboI

Regarding H.H.maybe its master piece....but in a specific genre? What truly defines something as master piece? Time?

frogman

Big Kenny Dorham (the uncrowned champion as Art Blakey called him) fan as I am I would like your opinion on how Tommy Flanagan handled himself on the following song. I know its nowhere near as complicated as Coltrane's Giant Steps but it has a few challenges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUz-6CZXWO4