Subwoofers and Phase Question For You Sub Experts


I use a pair of Dunlavy SC-3 speakers, known for their time/phase coherent crossover design.

When the stars align the speakers completely disappear and there’s a sense of space and 3 dimensionality that I’ve heard from few other speakers/systems. It’s easy to destroy the illusion with things like poor placement, poor setup of room treatments, etc.

Adding subs to the setup is both a blessing and a curse. The Dunlavy’s need some support in the nether regions and a pair of HSU subs do add a solid foundation to music which enhances the overall presentation; however, it’s at the expense of some stage depth, width and image dimensionality. Placing the subs a few inches forward of the front plane of the speakers helps a little but that isn’t where they perform at their best as ‘subwoofers’.
Finding optimal room positions for bass augmentation always creates a clash with the phase aspect of integration resulting in the diminished soundstage described above.
Playing with phase settings has little impact on the problem since there’s just a toggle for 0 and 180.

Which brings me to the questions - 
1/ How does running a swarm setup, with 4 subs, affect phase/time integration with the mains? Does it create twice or half the issue or remove it altogether?

2/ Looking at subs such as the JL Audio F series with auto room calibration, does the EQ algorithm compensate for any time/phase anomaly or is it simply looking for a more linear bass response?

I don’t mind investing in more sophisticated subs so long as I don’t end up with the same problem. I’m not really inclined to mess with software and the like, unless there’s no other way.

Thanks

Rooze


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Kenjit,
It was your grandiose claims and lack of ability to alter your reality as more information was presented which contradicted your claims.



No one has to rely on my expertise alone.

I've posted a number of references, and agree with Duke.

The physics don't change.  I just happen to have experience with it, and shared the way.


Best,
Erik
PS - I don't have a problem with swarms.  Just their cost, placement, wiring, etc.

The physics are fine, but from a convenience point of view, 1 sub with bass traps and EQ rules.
Kenjit,
It's also your ability to hold simultaneously opposite positions on a subject matter which we all remember. 
Hey Kenjit:

which if i recall correctly has been heavily ridiculed by the experts on diyaudio.

Post your link. Like any other project, plenty of discussions.

By the way Kenjit, unlike you, I’ve posted my entire design. You keep asking me questions about it, and claim your own are far superior, with zero data to back them up.

Here's the discussion on the SNR-1

https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/316511-snr-1-mundorf-scanspeak-2-a.html