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Preamp Output Capacitor: Mundorf Supreme vs. Supreme Silver Oil

Anyone compared the bass response of these two caps?  I bought the Supremes for trial purposes and really loved what they did to my system's imaging (front to back layering) and immediately bought the Silver Gold Oil Supremes.  Unfortunately while they were smoother, more beautiful, and even better at imaging, they had no bass (actually, they lost bass as they broke in).  Anyone know how the Silver Oil's fit into the line?  

I'm using them in a Don Sach's DS2 Preamp ( https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/7983).  

Thanks.
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alexberger
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I tried a dozen different polypropylene capacitors.
All of them have "plastic" coloration. 
In term of tone, smoothness and musicality paper is oil capacitors always bit polypropylene  capacitors.
I never tried Teflon capacitors.  Teflon isolated wire sound good but less natural compared cotton isolated wires.

Regards,
Alex.
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atmasphere
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I never tried Teflon capacitors. Teflon isolated wire sound good but less natural compared cotton isolated wires.
Teflon *insulated* wire has to be either silver or silver plated. Its more likely that the wire is the problem rather than the insulation.
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cal3713 OP
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@c_avila1 I just opened this thread to ask people ( @grannyring ) about the front-to-back layering performance of the odams and then read your review...

"My system was already very dimensional but now it's like wearing 3D goggles for my ears."

I think you sold me. As I mentioned above, I love the tonality of my duelund's, but am missing a bit of the 3d nature of the mundorfs. I want it all. 
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cal3713 OP
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P.S. I bought subwoofer amplifiers for my coincident pre bass cabinets (the Dayton audio sa1000 audio kenesis uses for their swarm sub array) and had to change caps to avoid rolloff with their 12k input impedance. I tried janzen silver zcaps and missed the mundorfs so much down there. Gained a ton more bass punch/impact by going back to mundorf Supremes. 
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wig
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Guys,

I am totally amazed with the ODAMs in my Tube-Pre with just over 48 hours of use and talk about transparency, vividness, image density and layering is all there in spades. Your speakers will also become more Holographic...

These ODAMs has an uncanny ability to portray realism with a 3 dimensional stage that is large and almost life-like and I am still not in the ODAMs sweet-spot of 100+ hours of use...

If you are considering doing some tweaks and have the ability to carry out these mods, this would be WAY more effective and cheaper than a fuse upgrade; I can not detect a sound signature but you will hear more of the recording as if you were part of a "Live" Event.

Wig
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