The alacrity with which certain persons state their personal preferences as absolute fact always surprises me. I won’t name names.
Tasty, you keep asking about Vertere turntables. Could you be referring to “Verdier”? The Verdier Platine is a classic, uses string drive, massive maglev platter, mounted on a soft mushy footed granite base. IMO it has a few design flaws and is out of date these days, but it certainly is loved by many. Try to get an audition and take a good look at its construction so you can form your own opinion.
Mijo, your blanket statement that idler drive turntables are per se noisy is just ridiculous. In fact a well developed idler is perhaps one of the best choices if you want great bass. That does require expensively modifying a Lenco or Garrard 301/401, I admit. I don’t like TD 124 Thorens based on my opinion of SQ, possibly because it’s got a belt driving the idler. Worst of both worlds, IMO.