TACT RCS 2.0 Users Group


I've recently purchased the TACT RCS 2.0 unit. As I've been wrestling with getting the optimum performance out of it, I keep thinking there must be other owners out there that have ideas to share, as well as those who could benefit from what I've learned.

I was hoping this thread would provide a forum to introduce us to each other.

Anyone interested in sharing what you've learned?

I for one have found the unit difficult to get a true grasp of how to optimise, but once learned, it has produced the best sound of any component I've ever added to my system. My system currently consists of a Sony SCD1 to the TACT 2.0 RCS with internal DAC and D/A converter. Signal is then fed from the TACT in analog format to my Art Audio Jota and then to the Avantgarde Duo Hornspeakers.
I'll start by stating I've found the suggestions in the TACT documentation for speaker placement to be contra to good sound. I've gotten the best results by using George Cardas's Near Field logic and using the TACT Nearfield target curve as the beginning point to custom build my personal target curves.

This resulted in a sound stage this is awesome and the clarity of the frequencies is without compare in my experience.

However, it took over 100 hours of experimentation to reach this result - a lot of lessons learned. At this point, I feel I know just enough to be dangerous!
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I plan on hanging on to the BAT until I'm sure the Tact (delivered Weds.) works well in my system. However, keeping both is a pricey propostition when the costs of isolation, interconnect, digital and power cables is factored in.

I'm very happy with my system right now. I have a relatively large room so room interactions may not be hurting my sound. However, I wanted to see what all the hubub on the Tact is about. I'm also a techno dweeb so this is right up my alley.
Has anyone compared other Analog to Digital converters with the Tact on-board unit, e.g. Wadia 150 or dCS? I just bought a unit with the ADC, but want to know if it would be worth upgrading to an outboard ADC since I'll be feeding in a pretty good analog front end.
As per above, I compared the Tact to outboard DAC's and it isn't as good. The digital volume control is best over a limited range. I use a shunt to ground volume control in my monoblocks to allow for setting the output from the digital volume control in the Z-Systems (which has a better digital volume control than the Tact) to its best range.
Comment to Pls1, 031701

Re: Measurement with TacT 2.0 versus MLSSA.

It is absolutely true that the measurement performed and displayed by the 2.0 does not match the response when you measure with other measurement systems. In fact no two measurement systems will concur unless you set all the parameters for the measurements to identical parameters.
When you make in-room measurements there are a number of variables that will influence the measured result:

1. Microphone – is it well calibrated and corrected
2. Gating – how long a window for the measurement
3. What kind of windowing filter, Hamming, Hanning etc.etc
4. What kind of smoothing is applied

The TacT measurement system is designed to be used with the TacT correction system. The measurement uses proprietary frequency dependant gating, windowing filter and smoothing, and the measurement also takes into account the way the sound decays in the room.
It stands to reason that at very low frequencies – where the wavelength is long, it is desirable to correct for all the variation in frequency response imposed by the room while at higher frequencies it can be total nonsense to correct for small variations, simply because the measured results can be completely different if you move the microphone 1”. So the TacT measurement will surely differ a lot from measurements that are designed for steady state response measurements with no regard for what the measurement will be used for.
It fact a lot of the research leading to the TacT Correction systems have gone into the design of a suitable measurement system.
It would have been much easier just to adopt an existing measurement system and use it for correction, and in fact that was what we did in the early trials of RCS, sometimes with reasonable results but more often with rather terrible results.
Re: The comment on number of chips. Yes TacT 2.0 uses 3 very fast 48 Bit DSP’s while the Sigtech uses many more. However the DSP’s used in the Sigtech are ancient designs so it is really irrelevant to compare.