Help in putting together my system with used equipment on Audiogon and eBay.


I’m looking for the best bang for the buck. What equipment can I find that would make the best system for my budget ($8000)? I'm starting out with:

Pass Labs X1 Preamp, my rock to start with. I got it for $2500 This is where you can help me the most. Let me know your best match for this pre-amp, or the ones you have found to be the best you have heard!

Bryston 4B SST amp for about $1700. It’s been my experience that more power wakes up a speaker and pins it’s ears back. At 300wpc and the reviews on this amp I picked it, but just to start. I really need some experienced people to give me recommendations for the amp, or if the Bryston is a winner. I can sell this for a better amp.

Do I need a DAC?

Phono. I’ve realized that might be a big reason why people go to separates isn’t it? I’d like to hear some comments on this. If you have separates and no phono, what do you use? Stream music? CD’s?

CD player? I do have a lot of CD’s. With separates, it’s either phono, cd, or streaming correct?

I’m not really a phono guy, but I know which albums I would buy so it is an option. I wouldn’t know a good phono if you hit me with it. Please recommend a few.

I’m leaning toward B&W speakers just because of their reputation. I may spend up to 5k on a good pair of speakers, but I want them to be used and costing much more when bought new. I know how to spot a good deal and not buy speakers on their death bed (from reputable sellers), but I need your recommendations too. You all have heard more speakers than I ever have and will.

**I’m going to check this post often and answer any questions and write down your recommendations.
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Just to let you know we have a group here in the Jacksonville FL area, NEFAS, that has a few members that could be helpful to share ideas and insights.  We should talk.  Also going to Florida Audio Expo...
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If I had the money you have and you’re looking for speakers, I would have a serious look at the Focal Electra 1028 BE ($4999 New) or the 1038 Electra 1038 BE ($6999.00 New). Both can be had from Music Direct, and you get a 60 day money back guarantee. Another choice I would have a serious look at would be from Tekton Design. If you have the space, check out the Moab, power handling at 900 watts with a sensitivity of 98dB. Another choice would be the Double Impacts power handling is 400 watts with a sensitivity of 98.82dB. Tektons can only be purchased online and offer a 60 day risk free trial. You definitely need to check out both links before you decide otherwise. You will be amazed at the specs and both have awesome reviews. To me, you can’t go wrong by dealing with a company who offers a 60 day free trial in your home.
To give you an example of the Focal speakers, I have a pair of Focal 806V (discontinued) connected to a 40 watt tube integrated amp. This combination fills up my 11ft x 14ft living room and the music is natural and I get good bass without having a sub.

Instead of streaming, I would definitely without a doubt look into a network audio player. They are compatible to XMSirius, Rhapsody, and some others. However, you also get internet radio FREE. Check out vTuner’s Station List You can browse by Genre, Location, or Language. For me, this is a better setup than using a laptop to play all of your music.
I envy you as I wish I was in your shoes to put together my first / last superb audio system.
Good luck on your journey and have fun!!

4play thanks for the input, you are spot on with my thinking! I'll give the network audio a look. The cd ripper route is great sounding but the truth is along with zero vinyl I hardly have many cd's but the ones I have I listen to a lot.

I'm actually fond of Focal after having a lot of experience when I was younger and put together a pretty serious car stereo using Focal speakers, JL sub and more. I'll have to check them out.
Whatever you buy, replace all of the caps.  Not really. I just wanted to say that before the tweaknerds did.
You could go in so many directions depending on music tastes.  And you mix one wrong item and it is money wasted.  I like a mix of warm electronics with a bit snappier Speakers or vice versa.  If all
your gear is warm it could start to get muddy, if all sharper it could be fatiguing.  But that is for my ears.

And I wouldn't get into the old discs if you don't own any. You likely are not missing the specifics of the nostalgia so why go into that now, learn the gear with what you know for now. Maybe later out of curiosity. but for now put the money in what you will use.

Now I can't answer what you should do for your ears.  But for mine and my style here are some components I would consider. 

New or newer gear for speakers generally for me but not always.  (I don't mind having a warranty). 
For a warm system that is loud but clear and not deafening.
KEF R11 new, break them in or find a recently used pair. 
Paradigim Prestigie are a bit sharper so I might get a warmer set of electronics like McIntosh or a nice warm tube set for those.
B&W if you like, but then I would go with 802s and the older ones.  Great as a studio monitor but they are not warm.  But I loved the details.
Eggleston if you can find a good pair.  But bring a strong friend they are heavy, and they do like power so you want a strong amp too.
I also like Nola smaller, I hear the larger ones they have made are great so I would audition those, but I hear you will want a warmer amp.

Electronics I like my Arcam amps I like Parasound preamps and got a P3 but have not heard that mix together yet. but for a really warmer sound McIntosh I loved my older ones both amp and pre.  My friend loves them with his Klispch LaScalla (spelling?).  Of course you can get some good deals on Krell equipment and they are a good bet, but not sure which specifically I would go with.  If you want to go old school and warm try the early Superphon preamp.  But you will need to get out of the chair to change the volume this is as basic as you get.   

DAC I don't know enough about the best so I would experiment with any well know brand.  Might even try the Schitt since a surprising number of people have recommended it.

Just some things to try, but the key is try them.  If you like your current Pass Labs then keep it and bring home the speakers you think will compliment it. 

Good luck