Frustrated with Vinly


Hey All,

Just coming here to let out out my frustration with Vinyl. I know that Vinyl takes patience but it's frustrating when playing some of my newer records and they have noises that I do not want to hear. Meaning, I try to clean them and they still have noise (pops, crackles, etc). When playing at low volumes of course you do not hear as much but when I turn up the volume is when it gets irritating. 

I can understand if older vinyl would sound like this but these are my newer records that I bought (amazon or barnes and nobles).

Now, I know the products that I am using are probably not great in the first place and I will probably need to upgrade to some more serious cleaner).

Currently trying to use a combo of: Kaiu Vinyl record cleaning set and I have also tried the Audio Technica AT6012 Record Care Kit.

So now I am considering either a Spin Clean type system or Pro-Ject  VC-S2 ALU Type cleaning system.

Any suggestions?

I almost want to give up on Vinyl sometimes and stick to digital (cd, hi res files, qobuz streaming).

Current equipment: denon dp-300f w/2m blue cart.

Thanks

Jay
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Ability to NOT HEAR normal amount of Static is Acquired, allows involvement without disruption. Ticks and pops are disruptive to enjoyment.

Played LP's from 1960 until CD players cost became reasonable. Teenager, cheap equipment, no care of lps.

Played CD's, Holy Crap, no noise, for life, Nirvana.

Inherited Thorens Heavy Platter TD124 with SME 3009 arm, bought Shure V15V.

Tried Vinyl again. Noisy.

Had to re-acquire the brain's ability to listen to the music and the brain to ignore static. Once acquired, realized, CD was a trick, Analog is the real deal.

Realized, many of my old LP's were beat up, so began acquiring new or very good used.

Cleaned on the TT Platter, with squirt and brush and wait to dry. Waiting to dry disruptive to enjoyment.

Just upgraded to Dual Arm TT, superb heavy plinth, better arms, new cartridges.

Better equipment does a better job of revealing problems, i.e. my dirty records.

Bought one of these, (like chackster recommended)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GSSQ1MN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

the primary advantage for me is the drying rack, clean 10 at a time, play them later or tomorrow. (chacksters has the drying rack also, it is just not shown, it stores inside the base.
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repeat, IF New LP's are too noisy, it's more likely cartridge alignment/stylus condition, New LP should need a simple swish with dust/static brush, and sound great.


I t was mentioned that M/C cartridges might mask tics and pops. Could this be from a heavier traking force.  I am going to play with thjis idea by adjusting mine.
I've done 5 Audiophile group get-togethers in SoCal since September. We have 2-3 good DACs (and 5-6 not so good) several TTs, lots of amps and speakers. 
One of our guys brings an ultrasonic cleaner. That does make a difference on good/or new records, but on some, nothing helps.  IT take about 15 min and he has some brew he uses.  That gets the stuff out of the deep groves and for some new records it brighten's them up a bit. 

  

There is one Vinyl that always sounds best. There are 2-3 that we all debate. The Vinyl guys prefer the records. Then that are many many records that just are not that good. The same/or similar track on DAC is better.
The issue is probably the phono stage.  I found this out personally, since when I changed from several phono preamps that I owned to the Manley Chinook, all my records became far quieter.  Even friends notice that you rarely hear pops, clicks or scratches on my system.  

Do a search on AGon for Atmosphere and Phono Stage, and you'll read descriptions from analog expert Ralph Karsten on why this happens.  Bottom line, it's about static that is created in the process of the needle dragging across the vinyl, and how the phono preamp can become unstable for a variety of reasons.  A better phono preamp will make a huge difference.