Love it when it snows


Nothing quiets things down like a nice blanket of snow. The roof is muffled, and the forest too. But I think there may be even more going on. Doesn't snow often here, but every time it sure does seem like the power is cleaner. For sure the listening is better. 
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...but at least you've gotten some insight as to how I sometimes perceive some of these forums...seemingly endless wrangling over what is already known to be contentious....

What is Reality?

Whatever 'you' make of it.  That would seem obvious, but...*shrug*

And that pretty much applies to All of Us....no 2 alike.

Similar....but still different, in some way.  And even that is situational.

I can accept that, and have for a very long time now...and I'm good with it.




*L* 'Reality for the stinkbug I just snuffed didn't turn out well, however...;)

A frog in hot water studying the thermometer theory and saying, at 99C or 210F, this water dont boil at this time being and was not boiling either in the near past.... This is an example of the passion for science studies or perhaps also an example for a complete absent mind idiot.... The context determine the interpretation...

This story is the same as the popular tale describing the absent minded professor blindly walking in a hole...


One of the possible interpretation is that in the general context of life it is also necessary to be attentive to the surroundings indeed if our life has value to us and not only attentive to some narrower idea or facts...


Is it necessary to wait before acting toward a common valued larger goal, even if all proven facts justifying the action are not there ?


In justice we dont act and lynch someone without waiting for the last of all the facts that are proof of his guilt...


Is the survival of humanity asking for the same precautions than justice for someone ?


Is a common conscious acting valued goal must be suspended because some affirm that the facts are not all there?


What it takes to act?


A judge decision, a last scientific fact? The problem is: can we wait till these last scientific facts will come if they comes in times? That looks like the last centigrade degree on the frog thermometer...

The circle is complete, we act by our sense of values, not only by the relative accumulation of facts...A frog who value his life dont study thermometry in hot water...

We act by gauging facts and values, they are nothing without one another...


We cannot and never will be ever able to say that we absolutely know, we only in a relative manner gauge facts against values and values against facts...This is history...

Goethe says :« History of science is science itself»

And for the end:

Some say that the frog has cheated and falsified his thermometer, and affirm that his proof study concerning all the problem of the hot waters is not existing and not valid and at the end this is proof that there is no boiling water at all...

Submitted metaphors to meditate....



*L*  Not for that bug anymore....;)  Not that it had any concerns over it....

And I know a lot better than to strike that hook....;)

We're on opposite ends of that spectrum; this you know already.

Just another case of the 'irresistible force X immovable object', discussion-wise for either of us.  And, only time will tell which stance holds sway.  We both hope we're right.

I will concede that I would prefer your scenario...

Personally, I'm more pleased I nailed that bug....instant 'grats' over an annoying pest....;)
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