confused and don't know what to do


We would like to buy a nice audio system and also have this double as a surround sound but listening to music is the priority. We have listened to many speakers but have settled on the B&W 804's. Now the challenge is to select a receiver and all the other accompaniments we require. We have a little challenge in that our home is a condo and the outside wall is all glass. The space is combined kitchen, living room, and dining room all open with hardwood floors and hard tile on the walls of the kitchen and a lot of granite counter tops. It seems that every where we go, the recommendations are different depending on what the store is selling and of course, the sales people would like us to buy the most expensive. What would give great sound without going crazy. We are thinking about 2 tribe sub woofers and space is limited and an in wall center B&W speaker but we don't know what we are doing and don't want to throw our money away. Help! Too many choices and we don't have enough knowledge. Thank you so much.
raw33
Lots of good advise above but I want to add more thoughts about the room.

Walk around your room and do a single hand clap at various places. Then go into other rooms, especially bedrooms, and do the same thing. In your main room you will likely hear a strong flutter echo. If your bedroom is carpeted and you have a couple chairs plus the bed you will hear a smoother fade-out of the sound. Flutter echo = bad sound. You want your large room to sound more like your bedroom. There is no amount of money you can spend on gear that will overcome the bad effects of flutter echo. One of the main things to know about room acoustics is that the digital correction technology in an AV receiver will do nothing to address flutter echo. It only concerns itself with frequency response, particularly in the bass region.

The next thing is to talk to your significant other about how you will be playing the system. There will certainly be times that you are sitting in the sweet spot listening intently to a piece of music. However, it sounds like this is your main living space which portends other requirements. Do you or your SO like to listen to music when you are in the kitchen cooking? How about watching TV. The point here is that you will need to think about how the system will sound in other parts of the room. If the room is large with a lot of reflective surfaces it might sound like a cave. In this case I would recommend that you think about remote speakers and where they should go. This will affect your choice of gear.

Before researching the optimum system I recommend that you focus your energy and dollars on treating the room. There is lots of good instructional information on the web and there are several companies who provide room treatment products that will have an expert personally assist you to improve the acoustics of your space. There are even custom absorbers available that can be covered by your own artwork or photos.

Lastly I agree with the above posters who recommend starting with a good quality two channel (or 2.1) system. You might find, as I did, that having more than two channels doesn't improve my movie watching experience. I finally came to the conclusion that the extra speakers were more of a distraction. For movies where multichannel sound is very important we usually go to the theater. We just saw The Rise of Skywalker and it was amazing. I'm simply never going to have a surround system that is anywhere near that good.


Try Anthem MRX series (especially MRX 720 (approx $2500)).  Great for music, great for AV/cinema

Hi Raw33,

My opinion would be to take this project slow and build it up over time as your experience and knowledge increases.

Your room will probably be your biggest issue. A lot of reflective surfaces which more than likely will cause sound quality issues. It does sound like it might be a large room which should help. The good news is that sound issues with the room the can be fixed. Things like furniture, throw rugs, drapes can all help to reduce reflections. If you live near a major metropolitan area you should have someone in your area that deals with room acoustics that could come out on a consultation. It might set you back a few bucks but it would probably be money well spent.

As far as the system I would start out with a 2 channel music system just to keep it simple and your investment manageable. You can always expand in the future. The more parts you add the more complex the integration becomes and if it’s not integrated well you are not going to be happy. Find a dealer that will at least give you a return option after some type of home trial of so many days. Usually these are 30 to 45 depending probably on the dealer and the manufacturers involved. A good dealer should also be able to help you set your system up. 

If you buy decent quality gear and it is properly set up and in your case the room is properly treated, it should sound good doing both music and home theater.