Help me understand John Coltrane .... seriously.


Hi Everyone,
Listen I have a favor to ask, and those of you better educated in Jazz can help me.

I always have a tough time listening to John Coltrane. It's like he's talking a different language.
Can any of you point me to recordings I should listen to on Tidal or Quboz or whatever that set me up to better appreciate the man?


Thank you for the musical education.

Best,

E
erik_squires
''Ballads''
and Coltrane with Johnny Hartman.
These are the most accessible i.m.o.
I'm not going to tell you where to start, but figuratively and literally Chasing the Trane will chase your troubles away.
@erik_squires ,  E, this is another provocative thread you authored.  I enjoy the questions you ask in this manner.  They really get you thinking.  Also,  I enjoy how you adroitly "stay out of it".  You are setting up the question and if a debate exists, then, so be it. 

Back to the programming at hand...

I really do enjoy "John Coltrane & Johnny Hartman" on Impulse (1995 Vinyl reissue).   You might not believe it's Coltrane. Give it a whirl and maybe move deeper.  Coltrane's not an easy ride from his middle period onward for me.


this is another provocative thread you authored. I enjoy the questions you ask in this manner. They really get you thinking. Also, I enjoy how you adroitly "stay out of it". You are setting up the question and if a debate exists, then, so be it.


To be clear, my ignorance and desire to learn about this subject in my original post was genuine. I have very little to contribute other than to listen to the suggestions posted by those who could sympathize with my plight and show me a light forward.

Honestly I neither expected so much material to come out, nor did I expect any debate, and especially did not expect downright anger at a question seeking knowledge.

If we were in the 1700’s and I said "I don’t get this Bethoven guy, there’s no basso continuo anywhere... some one please help me understand the form of classical music..." I really don’t think I would have created so much debate. :-)


Best,


E
@erik_squires  When you listen to Coltrane, do you enjoy the music. If the answer is yes, then why attempt to disseminate why...if the answer is no...same point. Most folks have favorite genres and artists...and those that they totally dislike. Personally, i have a hard time with gangster RAP, but i can accept that there are plenty of people who like it..even to exclusion of all other types of music. Do I wonder if i can understand it better, and therefore enjoy it more...no. Because, I am happy enough with all of the other numerous types of music that i do enjoy...and IF a gangster RAP piece comes along that I can feel in my soul...well then that's good too. Music is like that, it either makes you want to listen more, or it does not...nothing to learn there, IMHO.