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Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC with Ortofon 2M Red Cartridge vs.Pro-Ject - Debut Carbon Esprit S

Hey, 

I finally got back into vinyl and purchased a ProJect Debut Carbon DC.  After purchasing I realized that there's a another Proj-ect, a  Debut Carbon Esprit SB, and am wondering if I should return the Carbon DC and buy  the Espirit.

Anyone know if the Espirit is a major upgrade?  Or is the Carbon DC upgradeable making it equal or better than the Espirit?

I know the Carbon DC can be upgraded with a new blue Cartridge and a Platter.  

I need to send the TT back within the next few days so I'd appreciate some feedback asap.

TIA
klimt
klimt OP
164 posts
 
And here's a link to the recommended platter.

https://www.audioadvice.com/pro-ject-acryl-it-platter-upgrade-black.html
rpeluso
1,051 posts
 
Chakster,

May I ask, why do you recommend that table so strongly?  This is a serious question, not a challenge.  
klimt OP
164 posts
 
Good question rp!
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chakster
6,144 posts
 
Good question rp!

@klimt

I recommend it for people with budget limit at $2000, for those who need brand new and complete system. The GR is $1700 and there is nothing new that can beat it at this price (imo).

Personally i prefer vintage Direct Drive turntables like Denon DP80, Luxmam PD444, and my old Technics SP-10mk2. But after more than 25 years of my personal experience with many different Technics i’m pretty sure this is the best option for people who willing to spend less to get more. I don’t like plastic belt drive turntables and for me it’s hard to understand why some people like them.

Matsushita made over 3 000 000 units of SL1200mk2 series long time ago, it was a $500 turntable, an industry standard for professionals. Now they made much better models, but still at moderate price compared to others. Technics is a top quality direct drive today, number one is probably SP10R.

None of those plastic belt drives can pass the time test like Technics. My first Technics still working like new after 25 years of usage, another one (Technics SP10mkII) still perfectly working after 40 years of usage.

Even most popular cutting lathe like Neumann have Technics motor inside, our records cut with Technics motor. I can’t recommend anything better than SL1200GR (or "G" for double price) today for those who need a brand new turntable for reasonable price, except for some killer vintage direct drive (they are cheaper and better).

Even on audiogon almost every Technics user is happy. So why not recommend them instead of those belt drive plastic toys selling for crazy prices? Matsushita is huge and they can sell more at lower price, their price is fair for what anyone can get.

P.S. @klimt You can use Technics SP-20 if you don’t mind vintage direct drive, custom plinth and tonearm is all you need. This is what i put together for a friend.
klimt OP
164 posts
 
Hey chakster!

I’m going to seriously look into this! I’ll probably go to a high end stereophile store to audition TT’s. This will be high on my list. I’m actually willing to spend a little more for something I actually like. (unlike the Pro-ject debut carbon dc)

BTW- what is your opinion of CD/Digital vs. Vinyl?
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