Jazz for aficionados

I've got the best of Lee Morgan which does not have that tune, now I have to get "Sidewinder" again because I can't find it. I know I had the LP a long time ago. I never bought the CD.

Geoffkait, I rolled down the windows and let some air in, you can breath easy now.

Rok, your post of the great “Bag’s Groove” is a great example of how confusing things get with reissues of earlier records and confusion about lineups.
The album cover accompanying your great clips is of the reissue album titled “Bag’s Groove” which is a compilation of two different recordings; one of which is, as you wrote, “Miles Davis & The Modern Jazz Giants”. On the reissue/compilation the title cut “Bag’s Groove” is the only tune that Monk plays on; on the others Horace Silver plays.

The stories around some of these historic recordings also get confusing. They get elaborated upon and exaggerated over the years and find their way to print. I don’t doubt that Miles asked Monk to lay out during his solos, but I don’t find the idea that Miles asked Horace Silver to play like Monk believable (O-10, curious about where you read that story?). First, it’s highly unlikely that a player of stature like Silver would be asked to sound like someone else. Not to mention, why would he ask Silver to sound like Monk when he didn’t want Monk to play during his solos at all? Lastly, if he did ask him, which I seriously doubt, Silver does a terrible job of it as he sounds nothing like Monk on any of the tunes that he plays on.

The reissue/compilation includes two takes of the title cut “Bag’s Groove”. You posted Take #2. Maybe as a result of the ruckus and Monk wanting to prove a point he plays a great solo on Take #1 of the tune which is considered by many to be one of the great Jazz solos on record. Classic Monk; quirky, very interesting and a little strange. Thanks for the great clips.

https://youtu.be/QW7wbh0dVHA

From the original “Miles Davis & The Modern Jazz Giants”. Monk comps during Miles’ solo....go figure:

https://youtu.be/-4Hqtows_wM

I agree with the frogman.

I can easily decipher Monk on the title track. Silver and Monk are easily discernable.

Quick interrupt. Is there a consensus on recordings by Rudy Van Gelder? The reason I’m asking is because there appears to be some controversy because he made so many recordings in his makeshift studio in Hackensack, NJ from 1946 until 1959 when he moved to a real recording facility in Englewood Cliffs. And for many different labels, over a very long period of time, especially Savoy and Blue Note until 1959. I read somewhere that certain musicians refused to be recorded by Van Gekder because his recordings didn’t sound like the musicians. Some people speculated that this self constructed studio was not acoustically satisfactory. I am trying to avoid purchase of Rudy Van Gelder recordings until I sort all this out. Is it a coincidence that many of the Savoy Jazz Japan CDs from the 40s and 50s for sale on eBay and Amazon are Rudy Van Gelder productions? There’s a Rudy Van Gelder website that provides the complete discography for his recordings.