Also, unless your listening chair is bolted down, you can change the ratio between first venue and 2nd....
The “They are here” vs “You are there” sound topic
Hi all,
I want to start a topic about the “They are here” vs “You are there” type of sound. I have read that different audiophiles usually fall in one of either categories, but what does it actually mean? So here a few questions:
- what is the definition of “They are here” vs “You are there” in your opinion?
- what is the main difference in sound? E.g. soundstage
- which kind of sound do you prefer?
- which type of speakers fall in one or the other category in your opinion?
- what type of sources, amplifiers or even cables fall in one or the other category in your opinion?
For instance, I believe the Esoteric products from Japan fall in the they are here type of sound. Do you feel the same?
I want to start a topic about the “They are here” vs “You are there” type of sound. I have read that different audiophiles usually fall in one of either categories, but what does it actually mean? So here a few questions:
- what is the definition of “They are here” vs “You are there” in your opinion?
- what is the main difference in sound? E.g. soundstage
- which kind of sound do you prefer?
- which type of speakers fall in one or the other category in your opinion?
- what type of sources, amplifiers or even cables fall in one or the other category in your opinion?
For instance, I believe the Esoteric products from Japan fall in the they are here type of sound. Do you feel the same?
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The "you are there" acoustical signature on the recording is reverb and lots of it. The more of it you have the less the brain focusses on the competing in room sound signature cues. When the recording has no cues, the in room cues dominates and the performers appear in your room. However the elephant in the room is TONALITY. That is the holy grail of loudspeaker theory. All high end speakers are wrong when it comes to this. Forget about off axis response. Fix the tonality or you will never be happy. |
For the adventure get a zoom H6, and a guitar ( I myself like Taylor - the hometown team ) or a cymbal, tambourine, etc and capture some original acoustic events with venue 1 for the digital agnostics a small cassette tascam or better yet a Revox A-77 ( it was good enuf for Lonesome Bob and the Band after all ) should suffice. |
audiokinesis Thanks for your very interesting post... You made me understand in a better way my intuitive use of absorbing and diffusive ratio in my small room...I use reflectors to diffuse the sound in a way that gives me the first venues cues...I create that with my ears experiments and intuition and for me your explanation makes more sense of my experience for myself now indeed... With more conventional speakers the same principles apply, including: Minimize the early reflections (via diffusion or angled reflectors |
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