The “They are here” vs “You are there” sound topic


Hi all,

I want to start a topic about the “They are here” vs “You are there” type of sound. I have read that different audiophiles usually fall in one of either categories, but what does it actually mean? So here a few questions:

- what is the definition of “They are here” vs “You are there” in your opinion?
- what is the main difference in sound? E.g. soundstage
- which kind of sound do you prefer?
- which type of speakers fall in one or the other category in your opinion?
- what type of sources, amplifiers or even cables fall in one or the other category in your opinion?

For instance, I believe the Esoteric products from Japan fall in the they are here type of sound. Do you feel the same?
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ivan_nosnibor

Thanks for your interesting post...

My experience is like yours...

The mechanical and electrical grid of the house play indeed a fundamental role...But for me they are three embeddings:

1-The mechanical environment of each electronic component (vibrations-resonances controls)

2-The electrical grid of the room and of the house

3a-the passive room treatment with materials absorbant and reflective
3b-the active acoustical space modifications with 8 modified Schumann generators, 20 Helmholtz resonators and 50 reflectors...


The cost of my filtration noise system is low compared to other methods and entirely linked to properties of some stones and crystals...


For example the filtration of the electrical field of the telephone box, router, breaker panel, is 50% of the imaging field peak potential in my audio system...


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@maghister, Yes, I did indeed neglect to mention the 'mechanical' through oversight. I have a digital, ss system and found an excellent mechanical solution some time ago that works so well that I rarely give it any more thought, so it slipped my mind here. But, for others, particularly using tubes/vinyl, it may be a key piece, as you rightly say.