Wilson's Chronosonic XVX loudspeaker over 3/4 of a million US dollars

When solid state-generated watts became cheap, speaker designers started to care less and less about the impedance of the models they were creating. Kind of a corollary of the law of supply and demand.

@twoleftears 

I think this is a good observation.  If Genesis only had tube amps, they probably would not have been able to release some of the speakers with the impedance issues they did.

On the other hand, I think that with the design tools and computer based optimization, there is no longer any excuse.

erik_squires I took apart one speaker and saw circuits there deliberately designed to reduce the impedance. It made the speaker "discerning" of amplifiers.

So it wasn’t a Conjugate impedance compensation load that you saw, that makes an amp sees a constant impedance load across it’s working range??? Your saying it was deliberately done to be detrimental to weaker amplifiers that maybe demo’d with them. Please say who these terrible cads were that did this kind of thing???? And if it was Wilson or not?

twoleftears
When solid state-generated watts became cheap, speaker designers started to care less and less about the impedance of the models they were creating

Really!! you and whoever else is living in a dream world, if you think this is Wilson Audio design criteria

Are you guys listening to yourselves
I’ve heard many of their top range, that are a b*****s to drive and I can confidently say these will give better bass because of it and their deign principles than anything that’s 8ohm and 100db efficient and called Klipsch or similar.

Cheers George

Hi George,

Please share with us what the difference is between the phase angle of an impedance, and the phase angle of the speaker's output.

Thanks,


Erik

I asked you that above because, I call BS on it, and you came back with this rubbish


And you can’t even get that right, give up.

What one of what you are referring to is "phase shift" in the mid highs of Class-D’s and caused by the filtering of it's output filter.

And the other for speakers is the capacitive "negative phase angle" (EPDR) loading , not even related to each other.
Go away please, you have lost all cred.

It’s cheating of course, but some of us enjoy “ low efficiency but also low trash “ speakers that are an easy load, low pass optimized with a power factor corrected feed forward bass amp and another optimized high pass amp with just 5 active components in the signal path....

somewhere... I remember a class on systems engineering...

oh and because the room is part of the system. 11 bands of analog EQ below 120 hz

your mileage may vary