Thiel Owners

tomthiel -- and I presume his determination applied to the amplifier's ability to triple its short-term output into the lowest frequencies, the most problematic for any amp.  I believe the IHF dynamic headroom test specified 1kHz, which obviously had little-to-no bearing on the amp's headroom into the bottom octaves. 
Manufacturers were then spec'ing continuous power output over the full 20-20k Hz bandwidth, but many of those amps were tapped out at 20Hz.  Ask them for more power at those frequencies and it's no surprise they'd clip and burn tweeters,
How many amps of that era actually had the balls to triple their continuous output for 1/4 second at 20Hz into a demanding Thiel load??  That sounds like quite a feat for even today's best amps!

Our early amps included Phase Linear 400 and Threshold S500, which turned out to be non-representative, leading to an error of judgement.
I think the way Jim looked at it was that the tripling at 1kHz allowed for midrange transients beyond rated continuous power and that those peaks rarely coincide with bass transients, therefore the working headroom.

Error, or hindsight, or fudged specs, the EQ gave Thiel some notoriety in the amp department. I don't think Jim ever got the amp demand part right (from a market viewpoint). If his design loads maintained 4 ohms minimum, the speakers would be so much easier to drive and the voltage sensitivity and current demands would be in sweeter equilibrium. That's my layman's opinion from the user peanut gallery.

tomthiel
Thank You for your insight and recalling  Jim's approach in speaker design
as it pertained to SR. Very informative.
Happy Listening!

sdecker
Thank You for chiming in with your knowledge of slew rate as well.Very informative.
Happy Listening!

Question for the group:

What would you consider...whether it be a brand, model or speaker type...that would be most opposite of what Thiels are? IOW, the antithesis of Thiel.

Not trying to be inflammatory or anything like that, just something I have been wondering about as I read/watch more and more speaker reviews.

Tom: I have not yet been able to try tilting my 3.5’s back as my business trip away from home is lasting a second week, but will report back once I am able to.
Hope everyone’s doing well...

Arvin C