Innuos - New Re-Clocker


Heard Innuos was launching a Re-Clocker.  Anyone have details on the specs and performance?
aj72
Now that our assigned Troll for this thread deleted all his posts (good riddance IMHO), it’s probably time to repeat the most common misconception about reclocking function of PhoenixUSB:

I don't think people realize that the USB signal does not get reclocked by the DAC. What they reclock on the DAC is the audio signal that is transported via USB. What the PhoenixUSB shows is that the USB communication components themselves are affecting the performance of the DAC. This has also independent of the isolation of the DAC. Innuos has tested on numerous DACs, some very well known in the market for its galvanic isolation, and the result is still the same - they can't really isolate the data lines so the source still matters.

Basically: PhoenixUSB reclocks the USB signal with a very high-end OCXO clock, which is powered by its own power supply. Do not confuse this with the clocking for the audio signal, they are not touching the audio signal at all. They are reclocking the USB commnunication between the source and the DAC. PhoenixUSB does not work at the audio level but at the USB protocol level.
And I am leaving out the two other aspects of the design. Namely (copy/paste):

1. It regulates the 5V line from the source, helping remove some noise from the source itself

2.. It replaces the 5V power by one of the included Statement-level linear power supplies existing on the PhoenixUSB

And I already shared my own impressions of actually owning the PhoenixUSB for myself, but that’s of course one man’s data point. So it’s all subjective, and I understand the skepticism.

For what’s worth: I did a few A/B tests last evening as well as today. Nothing scientific, no blind tests certified by a panel, just me, with and without Phoenix USB in the path. Results are clear, this brings my setup to a new level. It’s not even close. Not subtle. This is change of the same magnitude of upgrading to a better DAC (I have owned over two dozen DACs over the past 15 years)

I am definitely not hallucinating, as our assigned troll makes it sound.

I am not an Innuos shill. Just a happy customer. First with a ZENITH MK3 about a year ago. Now with Phoenix USB 

Peace!


Post removed 
Well said @steakster 
With all due respect, you forgot two important things Innuos does with great promptness (based on my own experience):

1) Product support (“small” thing like the CEO doing remote sections to fix an issue)

2) Warranty support
I'm no longer sure what the meaning of "reclocking" is as used in this thread.

With asyncronous (not at the same time) USB, the pulling of data from the source (USB) is done by the DAC.  The source (the PC or streamer) has no effective control over it, and must wait to be called.

It will take a lot for me to understand how ANY clock in the middle of this would affect the outcome, except perhaps to make things worse.

The DAC doesn't "reclock" because it IS the clock.


@thyname Thanks for sharing, via your additional posts, your findings and differences with the Phoenix in the chain and without.

I’m surprised by your choice in USB cables, given your attention and taste in choosing quality components.

I’d expect further improvements (since you are deep into a USB based signal path) with USB cable ’upgrades.’ Just a thought and worth testing out.