Separates or Integrated? What makes more sense?


If you had $10,000 to spend on amplification, would you put all that money and get a really great and pricey integrated amp like a Pass or Luxman. Or, would you use that 10k to buy a really great preamp and amp combo. Apart from the convenience and space consideration, hypothetically how would you choose to spend that 10k if sound was your main criterion.

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I’m for separates. $10k isn’t necessary. Dennis Had Firebottle HO KT88. Dennis Had 6SN7 pre.  You’ve saved $7k. Thank me later. 
The Firebottle Club! The Had HO is an astonishing and seemingly underrated thing, possibly due to the relative lack of availability including him not actually making this amp recently. What's his Ebay output...a couple of dozen a year? The only amps at this point I'd try for more power would be the Had built QMB-25 monos from Moon, which along with his headphone amps could explain why he does so few of the other stuff like the HO and various single ended items and preamps.
The technology may well be there to keep the noise floor down with an integrated and don’t think one can assume a superior sound with separates.Thinking here that a separate power supply for the integrated would certainly have advantages. I will say though, lowering the noise floor had been a big deal in my system. Would think the industry people know to a pretty fine degree how much the noise floor is compromised in an integrated and would understand their reticence in addressing this on a public forum.


I have always preferred separates. My dream since a kid and fortunate enough to have a Jeff Rowland Criterion preamp and Sanders MagTech amps. To me, I have one of the ebst pre amps and amps available and I do not believe one manufacture who makes an incredible preamp also makes amps for me and my speakers (I have Sandres 10e stats). You give up convenience and you need an extra set of cables (I run Tara Labs The One so if cost a few grand a pair) but what you gain is better channel separation, isolation and, to me, the ability to get the best compatability you possibly can.  At a $10k budget, if you can get one of those uber new intergraded for 10k, that would be the way to go and move up to separates.