Jazz for aficionados

On page 422, Cgoodwin tells us that we can not call ourselves "jazz aficionados" if you can’t even list artists from this century. You, Frogman, have trouble with the word and description.

First, you and Cgoodwin should reconcile your differences in regard to the word "Aficionado". Shortly after this thread began you had a problem with the word and I suggested you start a thread of your own and name it whatever you like.

That was then; you have contributed a lot to this thread and I’m not suggesting that now, but if you have a problem with the title of the thread, I can’t think of anything else for you to do. Maybe you and Cgoodwin could come up with something more constructive than this thread.

Since the dictionary has no problem defining the word, I don’t know why you have such a problem understanding that definition.

This thread has gone on for years accommodating not only different tastes in jazz, but even different genres of music. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it; that’s my motto. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen; that’s another one of my mottos. If you don’t like what’s going on on this thread, find one that suits you (I just made that one up) not really, this is not the first time and it won't be the last time; it's kind of like a marriage.

Frogman, I can not count the times you referred to someone as great, and I disagreed with you but let it slide; that’s not even worth mentioning in my opinion.

In conclusion "Soul Makossa" really floated my boat, and I dropped a quarter in the jukebox to hear it in every lounge I went to when it was popular. That was the way I rolled, and I didn’t ask anybody’s permission then, nor am I asking it now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWK_Josc0Og

Here's a toast to you Adele wherever you are; "Manu Dibango" really rocked our boats.

Thank you both for your responses to MY diatribe.

Rok,

**** Most of us here use the term as a form of self-mocking. Making fun of ourselves. No one takes it serious. At least I assumed no one did / does. ****

News to me and glad to know. As I have said before I believe you and I agree in spirit more than it may seem; things just get a little muddled sometimes. Well, not too sure about the “no one” part. I guess that means that you too should “start your own thread” 😊

O-10,

it’s just a word. I already explained why I have trouble with it and Rok helped me out. No need to rehash. Actually, as I think about it, it’s a bit like the debates about what is and what is not Jazz; and, why ultimately it doesn’t really matter that much. Your thread is just fine. I did like Hefner’s “friends”. Romantic and lady killer that you are you will surely appreciate that 😘

Rok,

**** However, I will speak up when someone shows disrespect to the people who made and played this great music. ****

To quote the poor guy who had no idea just how much heat was in this kitchen: “I love the old stuff”. We’ve called it that countless times here. Where’s the disrespect?

O-10,

let’s not confuse matters. It was the article that referred to Dibango as “saxophone great”. I had no idea that you too thought he was a saxophone great. Had I known, I would have “let it slide” despite my strong disagreement. Seems to me there is a difference between someone ”floating one’s boat” (once?) and considering him one of the greats. Way too low a bar in my book.  Adele must have been really something and really raised your bar 😉

Just having a little fun, you guys. See what social distancing and having all my spinning classes cancelled does to a person? I finally have time to bias my amps’ sixteen power tubes 😱. Oh, shi#, does that mean that I am an.....”audiophile”? Please, nobody tell Rok. Anyway, putting all the silly pseudo-personal stuff aside the important point for me in all this is pretty simple. We complain about how this art form is dying and/or claim that this thread is some sort of exclusive club with few members. Yet, we do little to encourage more participation when new folks show up that either have a different point of view, are less than perfectly clear or tactful expressing it; or who don’t yet know where the kitchen’s fire extinguisher is kept. Seems to me that it’s not the best way to keep the Jazz flame alive.

Everyone be well.

The Chick Corea that has been stuck in my mind since back in the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppUpj90YAFU


Things seem to have changed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V39lXlaj830

We now have a real bass, a real piano,  and a Saxophone.   Not a guitar in sight.   We can assume he has seen the error of his ways.  Now, if they would only get their suits out of the cleaners in time for the gig.

Cheers

Gets even better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYDBVoUjPo

Questions to The Frogman:
When players  'quote', is it always done on purpose, or do they find themselves in a situation where it's the logical thing to do.   'Having played these notes, these logically follow' type thing.

Cheers