Which brand of 45 tubes do you use?


Can anyone using 45 tube amplifiers share their knowledge about what manufactures make them and your impressions of the quality. An impression of the sound quality in your system would be useful. I know that there is NOS, EML and Sophia Electric 45s. Any others?
Thanks!
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The S-30 is quite a nice amp and compact so it's a space savor. At a minimum I would get the power supply boost if you were to purchase one. You may also consider modifying it so the feedback loop is disconnected, even though Ralph uses an extremely low amount of feedback, or no feedback in his designs.

As for differences, I just find the M60 provides a more realistic sound stage with better imaging and separation of instruments, as well as more dynamics. The sound in the lower frequencies is where I hear the main difference with the M60 providing more of a good thing there. I think those who pan the bass in Atma-Sphere amps or consider it lean are mistaken. In addition, this whole thing about "tight" bass that I hear thrown around like ketchup on a burger is a misnomer to me. To me "tight" bass as I have heard it defined is a coloration and not something I want in my system. I find the M60 to provide a very natural presentation in the bass area.

Any Atma-Sphere amp, as well as any well designed OTL is going to give you transparency and detail the likes you have not heard before, assuming they are a good match for your speakers. The Music Reference OTL-1 is no different, although Roger and Ralph differ on their preferred platform for circuit design, Futterman vs. Circlotron, as well as use of feedback.

The OTL-1 was designed for high efficiency speakers or those who prefer low level listening. I've used mine on speakers of lower efficiency with good results as long as you keep the volume within reason. It is direct coupled with no output capacitor and a servo manages DC offset. The main thing I enjoy about the amp is it's flexibility. Four taps employ an autoformer that allows the amp to put out 10 watts into a 2, 4, 8, or 16 ohm load. Feedback can be taken from the same tap your speaker is connected to, or any other tap to adjust gain and damping (versus Atma-Sphere the OTL-1 has much lower output impedance). There is also a direct tap that bypasses the autoformer. In this case you get 1.7 watts into 4 ohms, 3.5 into 8 ohms, 7 into 16 ohms and 14 into 32 ohms.
clio09,  Thanks for your detailed description of the subject OTLs.

The OTL amp(s) will be used to power just our towers which play down to 120 Hz. The speakers have powered woofers. Do you think the "better low frequencies" of the M60 fall below that range? I personally don't like overblown bass. Good definition matters. If the recording has lots of bass, so be it. If not, a system shouldn't add or overemphasize what's there.

My understanding is that the Music Reference OTL-1 is no longer available and that few were made.
Even if the cut off is 120 Hz I would still opt for the M60. I crossed my ESL57 at 100 Hz and while the S30 was fine, the M60 just gave me more.

A revival of the OTL-1 and a new Music Reference OTL are on the drawing board. Progress is somewhat at a standstill right now though for obvious reasons.
i prefer EML 45 solid plate to National Union NOS ST 45 on my Jeff Korneff amp. The NOS is very nice but EML is even better. 
KR makes a 45 that they ship with their P-135 Preamp. Most KR tubes are designed so that although output is consistent with the spec for the tube, the plate dissipation is higher than spec allowing you to drive the tube harder to get more out of it without sacrificing tube life.

I have retail pricing on this tube at $850 a matched pair but don’t have the spec’s or data sheet. I reached out to Eunice and Marek to get it. I ought to have the data sheets on Monday. They are usually super responsive.

An interesting amp to try with your speakers might be the Art Audio PX25.  It is 5w amp and obviously uses the PX25 tube.  The PX25 is between a 300B and 2A3 in terms of sound profile where it has a midrange that is lush but not as lush as a 300B and it offers more detail than a 300B but not quite what you would get from a 2A3.  It sounds closer to a 300B than a 2A3.  Pricing depends on a few variable but it is an interesting amp.  

I think Art Audio may have been mentioned to you by a mutual friend. PM Me if you want more info on the tube or amps.