IM Distortion, Speakers and the Death of Science


One topic that often comes up is perception vs. measurements.

"If you can't measure it with common, existing measurements it isn't real."

This idea is and always will be flawed. Mind you, maybe what you perceive is not worth $1, but this is not how science works. I'm reminded of how many doctors and scientists fought against modernizing polio interventions, and how only recently did the treatment for stomach ulcers change radically due to the curiosity of a pair of forensic scientists.

Perception precedes measurement.  In between perception and measurement is (always) transference to visual data.  Lets take an example.

You are working on phone technology shortly after Bell invents the telephone. You hear one type of transducer sounds better than another.  Why is that?  Well, you have to figure out some way to see it (literally), via a scope, a charting pen, something that tells you in an objective way why they are different, that allows you to set a standard or goal and move towards it.

This person probably did not set out to measure all possible things. Maybe the first thing they decide to measure is distortion, or perhaps frequency response. After visualizing the raw data the scientist then has to decide what the units are, and how to express differences. Lets say it is distortion. In theory, there could have been a lot of different ways to measure distortion.  Such as Vrms - Vrms (expected) /Hz. Depending on the engineer's need at the time, that might have been a perfectly valid way to measure the output.

But here's the issue. This may work for this engineer solving this time, and we may even add it to the cannon of common measurements, but we are by no means done.

So, when exactly are we done?? At 1? 2? 5?  30?  The answer is we are not.  There are several common measurements for speakers for instance which I believe should be done more by reviewers:

- Compression
- Intermodulation ( IM ) Distortion
- Distortion

and yet, we do not. IM distortion is kind of interesting because I had heard about it before from M&K's literature, but it reappeared for me in the blog of Roger Russel ( http://www.roger-russell.com ) formerly from McIntosh. I can't find the blog post, but apparently they used IM distortion measurements to compare the audibility of woofer changes quite successfully.

Here's a great example of a new measurement being used and attributed to a sonic characteristic. Imagine the before and after.  Before using IM, maybe only distortion would have been used. They were of course measuring impedance and frequency response, and simple harmonic distortion, but Roger and his partner could hear something different not expressed in these measurements, so, they invent the use of it here. That invention is, in my mind, actual audio science.

The opposite of science would have been to say "frequency, impedance, and distortion" are the 3 characteristics which are audible, forever. Nelson pass working with the distortion profile, comparing the audible results and saying "this is an important feature" is also science. He's throwing out the normal distortion ratings and creating a whole new set of target behavior based on his experiments.  Given the market acceptance of his very expensive products I'd say he's been damn good at this.

What is my point to all of this?  Measurements in the consumer literature have become complacent. We've become far too willing to accept the limits of measurements from the 1980's and fail to develop new standard ways of testing. As a result of this we have devolved into camps who say that 1980's measures are all we need, those who eschew measurements and very little being done to show us new ways of looking at complex behaviors. Some areas where I believe measurements should be improved:

  • The effects of vibration on ss equipment
  • Capacitor technology
  • Interaction of linear amps with cables and speaker impedance.

We have become far too happy with this stale condition, and, for the consumers, science is dead.
erik_squires
 5 bit is more than adequate
No it's not.  They are using 5 bits due to hardware limitation and the over-complexity of the dynamic element matching network.  I don't think you know what you're talking about.

I am still waiting for Einstein or Beethoven coming out of your @$$ lols.

At least you now understand 5 bits. Still in shock? Didn’t expect that did you?
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heaudio123

It is easy to guess that you are a competent engineer....I will not discuss dac with you... :) 

The human brain is just a biological implementation of what amounts to a computer
This is false for almost all thinkers(not for most A.I. engineers tough because claiming contrary help to fund them, the human brain project of Markham for example)

This is even false mathematically speaking...Penrose and others to numerous to cite here...Like for example Kurt Godel, but Godel point is so subtle than it is missed buy most...This subtle point can be guess if you think about the  necessary condition for concepts creation that I suggest in this post...


but if you have a hard concept of a computer only being digital logic then you will not understand where AI will go.
Even with the coupling of quantum computer to classical computer you will not create a real conscious intelligence... You know why if you have read my post :creating concepts is possible only for an entity grounded in the living universe and able to see it from an outside point at the same time... This polarity condition is the basis of linguistic and the basis of mathemathical concept creation also...The apparent superiority of computers is precisely at the same time the reason why they cannot create concepts valid between worlds but only schemas valid in their own and unique  artificial world...  Conceptual thinking linked to metaphorical thinking  is not  only and mainly static schemas but a dynamical engine embodied in language and a powerful seeds for new worlds...Robot dont  speak even if you listen to them speaking, because they were never born and will not die either, they cease to be functional, they are not grounded in the cosmic universal living memory like the brain that is only a creative filter and antenna...Computer has no values.... They are amoral programmed, or auto programmed "learning" machine...Like a hammer...


A complex A.I will only be able to create an artificial world of his own, and will coincide totally itself with this closed artificial universe, unlike humans or unlike living entities and would be at some point incompatible with the survival of the human race...Man and living conscious entities die, they go from a universe to another one...Read some other books than engineer manuals... :) Science is not what you think....Science is a complex endeavour of the free human spirit not dogmas...


 For example reanimation medicine validated scientifically the independence of consciousness in relation to the brain... This is one only of the new direction of scientific research ...


For the mathematics linked to these new science era and describing abstractly the link between consciousness and universe, they are beyond the mathematics of all the 20th century and too new to be discussed here...They are not A.I neural network algorithm for sure...
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