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Break in time that extends to months or maybe even years!!

On another thread, we have a well known and well respected piece of gear ( and great sounding too, IME) that according to the member who is reviewing it, needs in excess of 1000 hours to fully break in!! 

While we have all heard of gear that needs immense amounts of 'break in' time to sound its best, usually gear that involves teflon caps, I question whether this very long break in time is the job for the consumer? Is it reasonable for a manufacturer of audio gear to expect the consumer to receive sub-par performance from his purchase for potentially several months ( years?) before the true sound of the gear in question can be enjoyed? Or, is it ( or should it be) perhaps the job of the manufacturer of this gear ( usually not low priced) to actually accomplish the 'break in' before releasing it from the factory? Thoughts...
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mitch2
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@billwojo 
Any manufacture that says that a product needs to be broken in for weeks or months is just hoping that you grow to like it well before the return window is closed.
Shhhh....a successful marketing campaign ensures that the advertised "break-in" window exceeds the time required for confirmation bias to fully develop.
Cables? Somebody has been smokin to much weed.
Another manufacturing secret....
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Just like the other one"
  
fundsgon
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Several years ago I recall reading the the Large Hadron Collider at CERN would only operate at 50% power for 1 year following startup to allow the magnets and other heavy electrical components settle in. I recall that the physicist mentioned that the crystal structures in some component needed time to align or de-stress. Maybe 1000 hours to break in some audio gear is not unheard of. 
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mahgister
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Several years ago I recall reading the the Large Hadron Collider at CERN would only operate at 50% power for 1 year following startup to allow the magnets and other heavy electrical components settle in. I recall that the physicist mentioned that the crystal structures in some component needed time to align or de-stress. Maybe 1000 hours to break in some audio gear is not unheard of.
I am sure this news has been already debunked by some audio "scientist" here....Or James Randi...

What a waste of time because CERN dont consult the right "scientist" probably....


Me I know perfectly well that out of the box any electronic component is more than ready to use, no "tweaks" needed, no time to waste, we have proven it with measures.... :)
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mahgister
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My post was a joke.... :)

But sure some debunk even joke if it is about "break in"....It is a serious subject matter... It is very important after all to debunk audiophile "crazy" impressions....

If you perceive rainbow dont say it is real, it is a subjective impression clothed in an objective one clearly... :)

An A.I. will not perceive it....Reality dont need impressions....;)

Wait ! I realize now that what I had just written is wrong...

An A.I. connected to a human brain will....

And will be more intelligent...

Able to debunk his own impressions and knowing why....

And no blind test needed...



:)


I apologize for my joke or sarcasm.... We are not always wise....

I will go back to the shed where Newton observe light wrongly with his corpuscular theory, and i will read Goethe to complete it rightly...But wait is Goethe not a poet? Poet are more stupid than some "audiophile".... 

Wasn't Goethe stupid ? He wrote that there is no theory behind phenomena and that phenomena are the theory...

It is sure now, Goethe was an "audiophile"....


Wait a minute...

Is it not quantum theory that suppose that a photon cannot be called  a "phenomena" before being in the theater of consciousness, but only a probability wave?

I throw my hat to the wind...

I dont understand anything anymore...

Where is Feynman when we need it  ?
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