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iPad directly into Amp - okay idea? or bad idea?

I'm beginning my journey towards building my first audio system, and off to a great start with a pair of B&W CM9 S2 speakers. Next step - I need to power them with... something. I've found several vintage McIntosh amps available (like the MC 2105 & 2205). I was targeting around $1-1.5k more to get my system up and running, and these would consume that budget.

I'm considering pulling the trigger and getting one of them and plugging my iPad in to play music. Then I'll save up for a little bit until I can buy a proper tuner (I need a tuner next, right?). I get that this isn't ideal, but I'm wondering if it's bad for any reason? 

Additionally, I'm not sure about the nuances of how an iPad's headphone jack increases/decreases volume. I vaguely recall from long ago that plugging an iPhone into a tuner's component input sounded bad unless the iPhone volume was on max. Is this true? And if so, would that mean it would sound bad if it were anything less than full volume going into the amp? Which would almost certainly be too loud, correct?

And if I'm totally off track here, then how I can make music on my iPad play on my speakers for around the same price? 

Thanks in advance!
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ebanksms
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I support the DAC suggestion and you don't need to spend a lot to get decent sound quality. As @gemoody suggested I would start at the Schiit Modi  3, the Topping D50s (has built in bluetooth) or the SMSL SU-8 which is fully balanced (if you lean that way).  I own all three and the SQ steps up in the order I listed them. There are better  DACs available from the likes of Schiit, Mytek or Chord but they don't come cheap and you are soon neck deep in diminishing returns.  When you get suggestions for gear that cost an arm and a leg just remember it's your wallet and your ears.
hickamore
713 posts
 
DAC definitely needed. Dragonfly Red a good choice for this modest setup. (Q: why is it that few if any in this forum, or any others in my experience, can spell the word "lightning," as in "a bolt of?" The word "lightening" means "getting lighter" -- as for a frying batter, or dawn of day, of a change of mood, as in "his mood lightened when the lilting voice down the hall caught his ear").

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b_limo
2,289 posts
 
Snag an Apple Camera 3 adaptor (you need the Camera 3 because with the other usb adaptor that Apple makes isn’t compatible with the Audioquest Red Dragonfly in that you’ll hear a clicking noise).

Grab a inexpensive Dac.  Schiit or Audioquest.  I used a Red Dragonfly with a Jitterbug and had good results.  You can later on add some nice inexpensive headphones and have a nice little headphone rig too without having to buy a headphone amp if you get the Dragonfly!
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asvjerry
4,859 posts
 
I've been using the headphone out from my Samsung 'droid into a Sony shop receiver, But....there's an old SAE parametric eq between, feeding into the tape in plugs.

That way I can adjust levels and tweak the eq before it hits the receiver.

Feeding straight into a amp ought to work, but mind your levels...and don't expect miracles....
jb1
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Your best bet for sound quality is to purchase a network streamer that has a preamp built into it that way you can stream over your network. Using the headphone out from a portable device like an iPad will give poor sound quality because of the sub par DAC built into it. 
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