Frustrated with Vinly


Hey All,

Just coming here to let out out my frustration with Vinyl. I know that Vinyl takes patience but it's frustrating when playing some of my newer records and they have noises that I do not want to hear. Meaning, I try to clean them and they still have noise (pops, crackles, etc). When playing at low volumes of course you do not hear as much but when I turn up the volume is when it gets irritating. 

I can understand if older vinyl would sound like this but these are my newer records that I bought (amazon or barnes and nobles).

Now, I know the products that I am using are probably not great in the first place and I will probably need to upgrade to some more serious cleaner).

Currently trying to use a combo of: Kaiu Vinyl record cleaning set and I have also tried the Audio Technica AT6012 Record Care Kit.

So now I am considering either a Spin Clean type system or Pro-Ject  VC-S2 ALU Type cleaning system.

Any suggestions?

I almost want to give up on Vinyl sometimes and stick to digital (cd, hi res files, qobuz streaming).

Current equipment: denon dp-300f w/2m blue cart.

Thanks

Jay
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The vinyl experience has been quite a learning curve and is indeed frustrating.  A couple of years ago I purchased a Rega Planar 3 turntable and found that my digital sources sounded better.  My power supply was part of the problem and so a power conditioner and an electrician installing an isolated line made an amazing difference at a cost of close to $2000.  My speakers Audio Physic Step Plus, amp and integrated Line Magnetic 216A.  I got a lot of enjoyment from this system, but started to crave more.
     As I have gone further down the rabbit hole in search of better sound, specifically more power from drums, I upgraded my turntable to a Music Hall 9.3, added a new phono stage, a Lehmann black cube, went for a moving coil cartridge. Ortofon MC Quintet Black S, into a Rogue PreAmp and the sticking point, a used amplifier with more power, an Adcom GFA 555.  Yeah, I know it's old.
     After installation I had a couple of great weeks, but at some point noticed a fuzziness in the bass.  Muddled and distorted.  At first it sounded like I had something on my stylus, cleaned it with a brush and continued on.  I do listen to some older recordings purchased from the resurgence of new/old record stores and so, maybe the recordings weren't too good or were dirty even though one shop does a lot of ultrasonic cleaning.  I have an Okki Nokki that seems to help.
     So, I went through the back and forth of connecting back and forth from the Line Magnetic and Adcom, finding that the LM sounded better. Also in the loop is a JL Audio sub that is connected to the Adcom.  To eliminate its influence I have turned it off during the comparison process. 
     I contacted the person that set up the turntable for me, took a couple of pictures of the stylus that weren't so good and when my installer said to take a picture from the side of the stylus, after enlarging it with a jewelers loupe, there I saw the tiniest little piece of dust lodged to the stylus.  By now I had ordered a Onzow Zerodust and between that and a brushing, got the little bugger.  Problem solved, or so I thought.
     A week or so later, the fuzziness returned, and I have become obsessive about a clean stylus.  So, a question to the forum would be...are some styli more susceptible to picking up dirt and dust?  Also, to my limited knowledge, is it possible to replace a moving coil stylus?
     This is driving me crazy as, once again, my digital sources are sounding better than my "vinly", and my digital sources aren't necessarily that great.  I'm not anxious to get a new amp only to find the problem persists.  To me it seems to be in the turntable.  Will check its alignment once again, but I don't think it's out of whack.
     To sum up my experience with vinyl, I have spent a good amount on power, isolation (table and rack), record cleaning machine, and the latest phase,  stylus cleaning (cheapest of the lot).  When it's good, it's great, but oh, what a commitment.  Frustrating is the word.   
I've got a Nitty Gritty shelved. Too much work scrubbing and sucking.
For the cost of a vacuum cleaner, Park's Puffin's SQ sounds quieter with the Magic firmware. You can even still use your Herron first if that's your thing.
As it was explained to us, new records have microscopic residual release oils in the grooves. If you don't clean them ULTRASONICALLY before first play, the stylus will make permanent sonic damage. Unscrubable.
If you require surface silence you'll have to pony up for the Sweet Vinyl SC-1 MINI.
Or stay digital.
I'm pretty happy with Shannon Parks myself. At least for my LPs that aren't available in any other HQ format. text ...
@averyclark
My TT setup is probably Mid-FI -(1200gr/ATvm540ML/Elac PPA-2 Phono) at best.
I have that cartridge. It's pretty good. I bought it as a reference point to judge my three $800-$1750 (used) Deccas. Suffice to say, and I was pleasantly surprised, the Deccas were far better. My point is that you can't (respectively) judge the medium from your perspective.