Why do I want a receptacle? I guess mainly because for a small amount of money I can just cross that factor off my list. I have good power cords, and now a good filter/suppressor from Audience. My outlet might be just fine, but dollars to donuts it could stand some improvement. I could spend $10 I suppose or $50. At this point, it’s so fractional -- and I just negotiated a $50 price break on a half-price used version of the Audience -- a savings of about $425. SO...if there is a chance it could make a difference, I could simply spend $40 and then dismiss "the outlet question."
System assembled; only a final decision about speakers remains
Thanks to many posters on this forum, I have nearly completed assembling an audio system.
Because I started off my questions on this forum regarding speakers, I’m posting my outcomes here. I’ve not finalized speaker choice. While I took "Speakers first" to heart and attempted to do things that way, slow production times and the virus prompted me to research and purchase in multiple areas. I wound up getting everything but speakers first.
I am enjoying my system with some loaners at the moment (review to come), and then (if the cosmos allows) I will seek synergy between this system and speakers. My hope is that the speakers ordered (Salk SS6M) turn out to be keepers, but they'll have a 30 day trial period. No idea when I will receive them. Oh, and I need to do some additional thinking about power and wiring, etc. And furniture.
So, to the various posters who chimed in with suggestions and information (I took extensive notes and you are now part of my informal library), here’s what I assembled:
SPEAKERS
Because I started off my questions on this forum regarding speakers, I’m posting my outcomes here. I’ve not finalized speaker choice. While I took "Speakers first" to heart and attempted to do things that way, slow production times and the virus prompted me to research and purchase in multiple areas. I wound up getting everything but speakers first.
I am enjoying my system with some loaners at the moment (review to come), and then (if the cosmos allows) I will seek synergy between this system and speakers. My hope is that the speakers ordered (Salk SS6M) turn out to be keepers, but they'll have a 30 day trial period. No idea when I will receive them. Oh, and I need to do some additional thinking about power and wiring, etc. And furniture.
So, to the various posters who chimed in with suggestions and information (I took extensive notes and you are now part of my informal library), here’s what I assembled:
SPEAKERS
- SALK SS 6M — these are being built (well, after the shutdown is lifted) and then I’ll TRY them for 30 days to see if they work. Others are being considered. Opinions are welcome.
- Sub: REL 328
- QS Linestage
- QS 60 Monos amp
- CD transport: Cambridge CXC
- Streamer: Bluesound Node 2i
- DAC IT (peachtree) — older; just to tide me over
- DAC ORCHID — this is my keeper
CABLES
- Toslink: for CD player
- Coaxial digital: Analysis Plus Digital Crystal & Audioquest Forest
- Interconnects RCA: Analysis Plus Copper Oval
- Power for sources and amps: Pangea Audio AC 14 & 9 SE MKII
- Speaker cables: Analysis Plus Oval 12
POWER
- Conditioner: Panamax 1500
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With regards to the OP: Since you are using tubes, its in your best interest to get a speaker that is at least 8 ohms (especially in the bass region) and easy to drive (no difficult phase angles, higher efficiency well into the 90s at least). Tube power is expensive, and to get the most out of it its a simple fact that high impedance speakers allow the amplifier considerably better performance. In the case of amplifiers that use output transformers, the lower the impedance of the speaker, the less efficient the transformer becomes. This can actually result in a loss of bandwidth on the bottom end- in some cases by as much as an octave! You'll also find that the transformer runs cooler when driving a higher impedance load; the heat comes from the power made by the output tubes turned to heat. Its better when its turned into sound by the speaker :) An often over-looked issue is the speaker cable- with higher impedance loudspeakers (such as 16 ohms) the speaker cable is relatively non-critical; with low impedance speakers the speaker cable is really important as is its length. |
@atmasphere Thanks for returning me to the original (and most important) unanswered question. There are some basic facts I know to pay attention to with my amp (e.g. it’s monoblock tubes, w/ damping factor is 20, putting out 60 watts), etc. When I look at potential speakers, some facts are given — their sensitivity, nominal impedance. I realize, too, that different speakers have different power requirements at higher and lower frequencies, and that often one needs to know the nominal and minimum impedance — or, better, the impedance curve of a speaker. I have read a lot of articles and even tried a spreadsheet as shared by Hans at this video: www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=itKqSWH07_Y What would help me is to have some basic information as to what a speaker’s specs should look like in order for an tube amp of X power to drive it comfortably. Something like: Assuming these specific variables (about listening distance, loudness, music type, room size, etc.)… IF: you have a 60w tube amp with a damping factor of 20, THEN: make sure you get a speaker that is, at least: ___ sensitivity ___ ohms nominal ___ ohms curve that looks like [insert description] ___ other metric(s)? Having a rough and ready chart like this could help me rule out of bounds any number of speakers. The Salk SS6m speakers I ordered mention/show their "ruler flat response" and note that they are "phase coherent in the crossover region." Then, the site gives the usual (pretty vague) specs as
Jim S. told me that his speakers are driven comfortably with even 30 wpc in a room larger than mine. So that put me at ease. But if I entertain other speakers, it would be great to have a chart to suss them out. |
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