If you listen to anything other than Classic Jazz, don't read this.


:)  I'm a Jazz only intermediate audiophile looking to improve my system. i ONLY listen to jazz, and i think that matters. If you are of the opinion that great speakers make all music sound good then move on to the next post, because the premise here is that speakers for Acoustic Jazz ( Big Band to Post Bop) have different requirements. My jazz audiophile buddies and i hav A/B'd lots of different speaker/amp/turntable/cartridge combinations as a fun hobby for the last 3 years. i've gone through at least 3 whole systems to get where i am now:
All Rega System - Rega Exex-R, Rega P3, with upgrades, Rega MC Phono Pre,  Rega Apheta 2 Cartridge, Rega RX5 Speakers. 

It sounds really great, but want to get to amazing if possible, and have recently done some speaker comparisons with some Paradigms and Harbeths that show the RX5's could have a tighter, deeper bass and bit more high frequency... 

The challenge is threefold -
1 )information out there is hard to come by, often confusing and  i haven't found much information specifically on what speakers jazz heads prefer.
2) I want to be able to put them up against my current system in my room, which seems a difficult task
3) They have to look good. Aesthetics matter to me. Tektons and Magnapans are cool But Ugly AF, and not going to work for me.

i want someone to tell me this is the best my system is going to get and just enjoy it (which i do 82.5% of the time), or recommend a few things to try, hopefully with recommendation for speakers to try, but i'm open to other suggestions.

I look forward to your comments :)

sincerely,
Eric the Jazz Snob
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The premise is bogus and counterproductive. A good system reproduces the signal, period. If you think otherwise that will only lead you to select for colorations that catch your ear or you happen to favor for now. Colorations however always eventually become tiresome.

That said, its your system. The jazz sound you like is made primarily with brass- sax, trumpet, trombone, cymbals. Seek out brass footers, cones, and anything else made out of brass. It will bring those instruments to life and make the cymbals shimmer like you won't believe.  
Absolutly, if your going for that woody Bass use spruce cone footers.

Eric, it seems you've passed your first query by fire with your sense of humor intact or does lugging a giant but delicate fiddle around demand an inherent sensibility? Welcome to Audiogon.   

My Eidolons are indeed Bebop only speakers. Their faceted enclosure are especially complimentary to Thelonious Monk's angular lyric.
When my wife plays everything Greatfull Dead the Avalons sound awful. They make Bobby's guitar sound out of tune and Jerry sounds like he's practicing. What's up with that? The manufacturer suggested a problem with my source which I'm considering as I write this.
I can't recommend a specific speaker but given the music you listen to, I'm surprised you haven't gone the single ended triode into a high efficiency speaker route.
thanks @tablejockey   - great suggestions.. P8 may be in my future :)

@m-db  - omg. hilarious!

@devilboy - a good friend has explored this and it has been fun to watch and listen... I like the concept and if i had a second listening room it would be great to explore on my own. thanks for the suggestion!!!
douglas_schroeder said:
In reality a speaker is either good on all genres of music or it is not a good speaker.
atmasphere said: 
This is arguably the biggest myth about loudspeakers in particular- that they favor certain genres, the classic being JBL L100s are best at rock.
While I respect and admire both of these industry stalwarts, I disagree with their assertions. I do agree with atmasphere that no rational mind would purposely design a speaker to play only one type of music. But that does not mean that all speakers are equally good for all types of music.

I agree that if you listen to many types of music and you have some flexibility with your gear, many (most) speakers will work very well with all musical genres. But there are a lot of different speaker designs out there: full range vs. limited range, dynamic vs. planar/EL vs horns, unidirectional vs. bidirectional vs. polydirectional... I think you get the point. Not all speakers sound (as) good with different music to me and my ears.

Example: I love single driver monitors paired with small SET amps. This would not be my combo of choice for heavy metal or large orchestras. But for music that works in the 80 Hz-10 kHz (aka most music) they sound great. There is a special quality that I don't hear from other combinations. I love them for jazz music. But I don't find that they work well for "complex music" like large orchestral recordings and opera. Does this make them bad speakers or poor designs? You might say yes but I don't think so.

If there was a single speaker design, technology, size, manufacturer that was clearly best there would only be one speaker. In theory, of course. Then there are the contrarians, like me.