Big source improvement using CD player


I borrowed a friend's esoteric dv50s CD player.  I could not believe the difference between it and streaming Spotify premium.  I am now in the market for a CD player.  One thing, the esoteric does not play DVD-R.  Can anyone recommend a comparable CD player in the used market that does? I'm looking in the $800 - $1500 range.  
puffbojie
Georgehifi,


You are just digging A bigger and bigger hole. Jitter is not remotely the same as uncorrectable read errors. A buffered and reclocked CD player using a $20 mechanism will be near jitter free within the limits of the interconnect method which has nothing to do with the transport.


I don’t appreciate the constant attempts at personal attacks to cover up for your own lack of knowledge. Based on your own test it should be clear I am the real audiophile and you are not. You called me not a real audiophile based on my perceived lack of knowledge of a test that didn’t even exist. I knew what the tests actually was. Your test for an audiophile not mine.

You are applying 1980s and early 1990s CD architecture operation to newer CD players. As another has noted, where this all started, the Bryston reads into a buffer and reclocks. The mechanism is at that point meaningless to jitter. Your argument is akin to saying that jitter on a streamer must be huge because jitter over an internet connection is enormous. Obviously that is not the case.
I debated between getting another CD player when mine died and getting a Bluesound Vault. With good advice from a local audio store I went with the bluesound and never looked back. Loaded all my CD’s, buy them for $2 or so when I want something, can listen for hours with playlists. Don’t have to pay monthly for steaming or depend on network issues. Highly recommended. 
Jitter is not remotely the same as uncorrectable read errors
. I didn't say it was, you are twisted!!!!!!!
From now on you are ignored!!
Ignore me all you want, but that doesn’t change that a buffered and reclocked output negates timing issue in a low cost transport not to mention the way that error correction does work, not the way you claimed it does negates almost all errors except on well scratched CDs.

I am sorry that you think accurate information is twisted.





Buffering the data doesn’t prevent or correct the damage to data done when the laser attempts to read the physical data on the disc due to fluttering of the disc and scattered laser light getting into the photo detector. Buffering only stores the damaged data temporarily. The damage to the data and sound occurs in the first picosecond when the laser tries to read the data. All the King’s horses and all the King’s men couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty together again. 🍳