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Best used integrated under $5k

Hey guys

Preparing for a move out from our NYC apartment to a house in the suburbs. 
As part of that planning to create dedicated 2 channel space. At the moment using my salk sound speakers with marantz receiver. 
Plan is to get a new TT. Also last year I had done countless hours of auditions and based on that had settled on Wilson Sabrina. Planning to buy them used to save some dough. 
Also planning to buy used integrated. Want to spend < $5000. Short list is
- Hegel 360
- Luxman 509
- ML 585
- Audio Research VSI75
- Naim Supernait 2
- Krell Vanguard

Bunch of these brands are not that easy to find in the used market and you have to wait. 
Would appreciate any inputs on the above and anything else I should be looking at.
marrduk24
yyzsantabarbara
5,037 posts
 
- Hegel 360
- Luxman 509
- ML 585

I have heard these 3 that were asked about. My money would go towards the ML 585. However, that thing is big.

It did sound closer to the $20K ML separates that I also heard witht he same speakers. The Luxman 509x did not sound close to the Luxman 900 series separates (with same speakers), though many people on A’gon think they do.

The Hegel 360 was not as good as the top end Hegel separates on the same speakers.

The ML 585  is close to the top end ML gear and my fav. Second is the Luxman, and the Hegel.

BTW - I recently heard that Harmon is now longer going to make the Revel Salon’s. Makes me wonder what the future is for ML.
ryder
1,742 posts
 
Yyzsantabarbara - did you listen to the 3 amps in the same system with the same speakers? Otherwise the evaluation wouldn't be too useful.
devilboy
1,176 posts
 
Someone made a comment earlier about Hegel sounding thin. Of all the amps I've had, SS or tube, my Hegel has the most body and "meat on the bones" of the bunch. 

The important thing is that he found an amp he likes. 
soix
10,098 posts
 
A tube hybrid like the Pathos Logos or Unison Unico 150 might be worth considering given the characteristics you’re looking for.  There’s a nice used 150 for sale at Upscale Audio for $3400.  Best of luck. 
big_greg
6,711 posts
 
I have an ARC Vsi55 and it's a wonderful piece. Haven't heard the 75, but would expect it to be better. I recently replaced my Vincent SV-237, which is a bit of a giant killer, with a Simaudio 600i and am very happy with that.  
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