Too good a post to waste


On a thread that is a running example of the textual equivalent of nonstop cat videos. So here it is again.


I could understand the cables are snake-oil doubters and take them seriously- in 1980. Back then there was no internet, Stereo Review was pretty much it, and Julian Hirsch was the Oracle of all things audio. Stereo Review and Julian Hirsch said if it measures the same it sounds the same. Wire is wire, and that was that. 

Even then though J. Gordon Holt had already started the movement that was to become Stereophile. JGH took the opposing view that our listening experience is what counts. Its nice if you can measure it but if you can’t that’s your problem not ours. 

Stereo Review and the measurers owned the market back then. The market gave us amplifier wars, as manufacturers competed for ever more power with ever lower distortion. For years this went on, until one day "measures great sounds bad" became a thing.

Could be some here besides me lived through and remember this. If you did, and if you were reading JGH back then, I tip my hat to you, sir! I fell prey to Hirsch and his siren song that you can have it all for cheap and don’t really have to learn to listen. Talk about snake-oil! A lot of us bought into it. Sorry to say.

But anyway like I was saying it was easy to believe the lie back then because it was so prevalent and also because what wire there was that sounded better didn’t really sound a whole lot better.

Now though even budget wire sounds so much better than what comes off a reel you’d have to be deaf not to notice. Really good wires sound so good you’d notice even if you ARE deaf! No kidding. My aunt Bessie was deaf as a stone but she could FEEL the sound at a high enough volume, knew it was music. The dynamic punch of my CTS cables is so much greater than ordinary 14 ga wire I would bet my deaf from birth aunt Bessie could "hear" the difference. Certain so-called audiophiles here, I'm not so sure.

Oh and not done beating the dead horse quite yet, according to my calendar its 2020, a solid 40 years past 1980. Stereo Review is dead and buried. Stereophile lives on. A whole multi-billion dollar industry built on wire not being wire thrives. Maybe the measurement people can chalk up and quantify from that just how many years, and billions, they are out of date and in denial. 
128x128millercarbon

millercarbon,

If you could read with comprehension, you would ask me to give you writing lessons. If I thought you could learn, I would even consider agreeing to it. However, two negatives would not make one positive so......no writing lessons for you.



Miller
I know Al is more than capable of speaking up for and defending himself on here although my guess  is that he is probably done with your banality but.....
WTF is wrong with you?

This from a guy who has the arrogance to name system parts after himself, I mean seriously... Miller Solid Core Door???

I guess I have to post again as you willfully ignored these parts of Als system.

    • Vampire Wire Speaker Cable
    • Signal Cable Digital Reference Power Cords
Now yes he does also state stock power cords but you know I have some of those too, like on my Nak cassette deck where it is a captive power cord, did you ever think along those lines at all?
Actually did you ever think before you decided to deride a member who has been of great service on technical questions to MANY members here over the years?

Just sad........

Does anyone know why lamp cord is universally considered bad?


Wouldn’t there be an application in which it may be better suited than some other cable? What makes it universally bad for every audio application? Are all lamp cords in the world exactly the same?

Because people hang themselves with lamp cord ....

Never with an audio cable....

:)

Bad joke sorry......

:)
Because people hang themselves with lamp cord ....

Never with an audio cable....
It does make sense. Audio cables are often not flexible enough.