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High Powered Holographic Amplifiers

I am looking for high powered amplifiers that are truly Holographic.. 

My speakers are power hungry, 

The Audio Research Ref 610T is easily the most holographic amplifier(s) that have ever been in this system. 

The solid holographic images moving around the room are nothing short of amazing. 

Music just seems to pour out of the speakers.

My "room" is completely untreated and has lots of noise provided by my sub zero fridge and freezer units. 
My equipment is pretty good, though.

Are there any solid state options that are as good?

My speakers are Magnepan 20.1
Preamp is Audio Research Ref 5
Source is a VPI (both Classic 3 and Aries I)
Cart is a Dynavector XV1-s
Phono Pre is a Manley Steelhead RC
Cables are whatever I bought on Ebay, Power cords (in this system) are generally just normal factory.

(I'm not looking for a white paper discussion on what sonic holography is, or to discuss ancient Carver products.)

Curious about the Ayre MX-R, the Pass XS-300 (but I have no experience whatsoever with either).

Are there any other amplifiers besides the Ref 610T that might be _truly_ worthy of the epithet "Holographic"?. 

(If you don't know the difference between soundstaging and holography, this is not the thread for you.)
theduker
gregm
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@theduker Let me chip in too, focusing solely on your request, "holographic imaging" & amp.
My nominations follow (explanation below):*Vitus (mentioned above), the power amp from their signature series, not the integrated
*Soulution: the 710 or, if finances permit, the 711*Spectral: their stereo 300 or the Mono 400 (don't quote me on the numbers...)*(Maybe): Goldmund the basic "Telos 1000", but I think it's best driven by their own pre. It's an excellent performer

Blurb:
for audio "holography" you will be best served by amps with very extended high frequencies and enough power to push these frequencies through. Taking into account your current (excellent) amps I think you need top-notch SS with an extended high-frequency response -- i.e. high cut-off point.All this presupposes an extremely revealing pre

Regards

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lwin
585 posts
 
 I have to agree with the cable recommendations. Some recommend starting with power cables but I say try some speaker cables. For a holographic presentation I would suggest trying Audience Front Row, Cardas Clear Beyond and Shunyata Research Sigma. All are available to borrow from the Cable Company.
Yes amps and preamps make a difference and you have some good gear but if you handicap them with generic cables you will never know just how good they can sound.
douglas_schroeder
3,281 posts
 
Everyone knows it's not the amp, but the source that lacks holography.  ;)


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mahgister
13,273 posts
 
There exist 3 embeddings for any audio system, 3 dimensions and 3 way for the audio system to interact with his parts and manifest it in sound...

The mechanical resonance-vibrations problem,
The electro-magnetic grid of the house and his noise level,
The acoustical space of the room in his passive controls and  the  very important active possible controls.

All good amplifier becomes holographic if these 3 embeddings are taking care of.... That cost peanuts and the audible effect exceed most upgrade of any parts in any system...It is the only things i know ...

The uypgrading myth is not the essential problem in audio it is the accomodation of these 3 embeddings that is....  :)

My best...
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geoffkait
23,365 posts
 
Holographic is just a word. Like a lot of words audiophiles use to describe sound. I can’t get too hung up on words since everyone has different idea in their heads what words mean. One man’s holographic is another man’s two-dimensional and flat. I understand some people can’t get the sound to escape the confines of the speaker cabinets. If I say the sound is warm or has air some people think it means one thing, others think it means something entirely different.
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