Which SUT? .... for .3mv/10 ohms MC cartridge into 3mv MM input sensitivity


Please help me choose a SUT for my 1st MC cartridge.

Now I have more than enough volume using my existing MM cartridges thru my mx110z MM Phono input which says sensitivity 3mv/47k ohms impedance.

AT440ml is 3mv.
Shure 97xe is 4mv
Shure V15VxMR is 5mv
Grado ME+ Mono is 5mv.

coming tomorrow: AT33PTG/2 MC .3mv/10 ohm coil impedance/dc resistance

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signal boost, am I getting it right?

1. Is 3mv a MINIMUM strength for the mx110z input?

2. .3mv x 10 = 3mv (+20db correct?) (minimum boost therefore x10/+20db)?

3, if correct, is .3 x 20 = 6mv equiv to +40db?

4. if so, a SUT providing +40db is more than enough for the .3mv and any likely future MC?
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impedance/loading: I am not getting it.

I read about a general rule: coil impedance x 10 for ____?
A33PTG/2: 10 ohm coil x 10 = 100 ohm

too high impedance sounds thin? bright?
too low impedance sounds dull?

(how?) (minimum?) (where?)
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Thanks as always, and this time I will definitely wait for advice before getting anything. I am not in a hurry for this, Bill will loan me one of his SUT’s until I get my own.

Elliott


elliottbnewcombjr
I don’t know of any SUTs which provide a bypass function, although perhaps there are some.
The Denon au-320 most definitely has a straight through bypass option as I have told Elliot in previous threads.

I used mine to run a 0.24mv ZYX into input 1 running at the 1;10 setting and input 2 had a regular MM cart running through it on the bypass selection when in use.
Both worked perfectly well to my ears running into a Manley Chinook (amongst other stages) set at 47k and 60db gain.
And by that I mean QUIET!
I liked the flexibility of having two SUT in one AND a bypass option, gave a lot of options re cartridge choices.
Oh and I liked the prices of used AU-320 units!
So the 0.3mv should be perfectly fine at 1;10 into the mx phono.

YMMV
hopping about, see some vintage stuff, do these transformers age well?

Denon more modern look, dc in from separate power supply 100v, I'd need a 120/100 pre-transformer.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DENON-HA-1000-Step-up-transformer-head-amplifier-Working-Properly-F-S-d530/254589438969?epid=1040361048&hash=item3b46b68bf9:g:xqgAAOSweYBesriC

Thorens, 12v, low 22db, high 32db, bypass

https://www.ebay.com/itm/THORENS-Step-up-Transformer-PPA990-NEW-c1091/324210004828?hash=item4b7c6c135c:g:UMcAAOSwYAVefCjm&autorefresh=true

sony 3, 40, pass and front on/off

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-HA-55-MC-cartridge-head-amplifier-Step-Up-Transformer-import-Japan/174120794119?hash=item288a687807:g:rckAAOSw6l1d7pT5

UTC A-11 altec switchable, 16:1 or 32:1

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133457836840

fidelity research frt-3 10 or 30. 26db or 31db, pass

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fidelity-Research-FRT-3-Step-Up-Transformer-MC-Phono-Cartridge-USED-JAPAN-fr-64/193131068733?hash=item2cf7823d3d:g:y0cAAOSw2YpdapVv

An OLD DOG, like me, 20:1, simply vintage

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Klangfilm-Siemens-T-42-2e-step-up-transformer/133312407153?hash=item1f0a09e671:g:XU0AAOSwiaVeKCWe

Sony in-line blocks HA T10, +26db

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-HA-T10-Step-Up-Transformer-MC-Moving-Coil-Phono-Cartridge-USED-JAPAN-RARE/193131071248?hash=item2cf7824710:g:pYMAAOSwLNpblKR6

Denon HA-500  24db 32db pass

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DENON-HA-500-Step-up-transformer-head-amplifier-AC100V-Free-Shipping-d1030/264728266720?hash=item3da308c7e0:g:UVQAAOSwkZleuiRY

JVC 30 ohm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/JVC-Victor-MC-T100-MC-Step-Up-Transformer/264781535201?hash=item3da63597e1:g:OJAAAOSwy~Je~Ctp

Cinemag 4 ratios:  1:9, 1:12, 1:18 and 1:36 (l or l+r?) (no pass)
1:18 on AT-33PTG/2 would be 5.4mv; 145 ohms

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Moving-Coil-Phono-Step-Up-Transformer-Cinemag-3440AH-4-Ratios-1-9-1-36-MC-SUT/193558279772?hash=item2d10f8f65c:g:pwAAAOSwdehfBJnw

I'll Make My Own

https://www.ebay.com/itm/COIL-WINDING-EQUIPMENT-MODEL-W-S-N-1171-T-440393A-w-FOOT-SWITCH-COUNTER/133247476931?hash=item1f062b24c3:g:LOkAAOSwUHld1tb9

??? Why can't they make one like this ???

https://www.ebay.com/itm/STACO-Energy-3PN1010B-Variable-Auto-Transforer/173800804939?epid=15006512759&hash=item287755d24b:g:EawAAOSwrdlcaySU:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!07062!US!-1

Empty Box ready for your 9 pin transformers of choice

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Moving-Coil-Phono-Step-Up-box-for-RCA-MI-12399-Transformers-MC-SUT-Bogen-T155-HK/193511613150?hash=item2d0e30e2de:g:05gAAOSwcTZeqOW9

same for smaller diameter transformers

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Moving-Coil-Phono-Step-Up-box-for-Sansui-A-603-9-pin-plug-in-Transformers-MCSUT/124163160221?hash=item1ce8b3789d:g:Z2EAAOSwxTZdaaw9

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Finally, Maestro's Remote Controlled Variable Transformer, from the Listening Position. Two required for Stereo

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lutron-Remote-MA-RH-Maestro-Dual-Control-Dimmer-White-NEW/303506335792?epid=1300142038&hash=item46aa632830:g:kSkAAOSwnAJeX72R

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Tiring, but, I had fun seeing how various companies/designers solved things over the years


What a complex exchange for a relatively straight forward issue.  Look up the Black Swan, fully front panel continuously adjustable loading and gain, tweak it by what I call earball, set all the variables while listening to it.