Stereophile complains it's readers are too informed.


erik_squires
@cdamiller5
"Just get what sounds good to you" was how I used to approach audio, food, film, etc. It’s such a simple, seemingly irrefutable bit of common sense.
I’ve given up that bit of "common sense" because I have found it partially false.
I have not given up following my own instincts and tastes, but people able to hear more (or differently) than me have pointed out what I was missing.
They were friends and sometimes dealers. In all cases that mattered, they helped me discover something I couldn’t experience before but now was empowered to. That’s what good critics (amateur or professional) do — they teach you how to listen (taste, see, think) differently. And in my own case, I’d say they *improved* my listening. 

@mahgister
+1 on all you wrote.

Especially:
I cannot imagine that an audio system has a sound of his own, when it is "off" in the box in the warehouse by virtue of the different measures of his components... He must be out of the audio laboratory and "on" and then in a particular different electrical grid, in a different particular acoustical room, in a different particular resonant vibrations states of his own treated or not treated against that....Then it has a particular "sound" for one pair of ears not the same for others one....

When I’ve gotten good advice, it’s usually come in the form of nudges, hints, tips. They’re always vague because they need to acknowledge the difference in our perspectives and experiences; but they are offered because of there *are* similarities we often discover. The most common ending I see in audio posts is: YMMV, and the key word in that acronym is "may."


I was relieved to read the opening column of the latest stereophile. There is a ...group of Dr toole followers that do believe because he wrote the book and contracts to HK that anything other than Revel is a complete wast of time and money.

Those that need to believe, god bless ya'll. 
First how boring would hifi be if we only had Dr Toole designs to choose from.
My experience doesn't jive with his and designing speakers with his requirements puts unnecessary requirements on partnering components reducing odds for successful implementation.huh, I mean the speakers can sound good, but often don't.
Most of us agree measurements aren't complete because we can find speakers that measure quite similar, but sound very different. Dr Toole offers his science as to why, science is theory.

teo_audio
1,518 posts
07-17-2020 9:53am
Some people, due to a lack of imagination, which is tied to a lack of cognitive speed or range, tend to drift into diktats, papal bulls and rule books.

As they can’t do the range, flavors, nor the risk ---of the intelligence shuffle.

That thing which comes to the forefront, when some are out of their range. The animal thing of knowing how safe they are.

The body, the emotions, the hindbrain... comes to the forefront, it forces the mind to retreat, when it can’t intellectually reach a thing. Danger!

So they get ’factual’, and ’linear’ and ’law-book’ oriented. They consult the biblical texts and lawbooks of their area of trade or ’expertise’, as they don’t have the range to be in the field, inventing or perusing the living moving always changing -edge of it all.

Oh yes. they, generally speaking -absolutely HATE the people who can.

They hate them for minimal sin (of all the sins of the intelligent and capable) where they can’t cognate the essence of what intelligence does or how it moves. They can’t decipher it and it’s not in the book.

Intelligence, much to it’s chagrin, to keep the entire thing moving or flowing.... is forced to be kind, in return, seemingly...forever. The endless beatings from the lack of intelligence. It’s called an act of humanity.


Some days, it wears thin.

I love you man.
Thanks hilde45....

I am astonished after my 2 years own journey to make Hi-Fi my own experience, to learn that most people have no idea how....

Reviewers sells, consumers buy.....

But how to create a Hi-Fi experience is never adress even here, only by small pieces, never facing the real fundamental problem: How to embed an audio system?

The audio community is divided in subjectivist, objectivist, sellers, consumers, engineers, regular folks and all in between these categories...

No consensus at all...

But i will repat myself, it is simple: the fundamental audio problem, after creating a new electronic design, is how to embed it....

Is it not clear like day?

:)

This was the problem i has to solve for myself in the last 2 years without which i will be till my death in the without end upgrade race to create my hi-fi experience...

It is way less costly to rightfully embed an already good system, than buying other so called better pieces to solve the puzzle....

is it not true?