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Who says cables don't make a difference?

Funny, after all these years, people still say things like "you wasted all that money on cables". 
There are still those who believe cables don't make a difference.
I once did marketing for a cable line I consider to be about the best-Stealth Audio Cables. 
One CES, I walked the rooms with the designer/owner, Serguei Timachev. He carried a pair of his then new Indra interconnects. Going from room to room he asked the room runners to replace their source to preamp IC with the Indra. There was not one that was not completely flabbergasted and said that the Indras blew away what they were using. That was the skyrocketing of Indra and Stealth. The Indra became one of the best reviewed cables ever.
Serguei now makes the Sakra-an IC that blows away the Indra!
I don't understand why some still do not value cables as much as I.
mglik
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justmetoo
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@speedbump6 
+1 for sure - so long we talk ICs and SCs. 

As for power cables my jury is still out - since a LONG time, and more so since I use a PS Audio power regenerator for all my source components.
Tried, though not the mega $$$$ items, and found absolutely no impact. Zilch.
Maybe Levinson power supply designs 'are to blame'? 🤔 
Michélle 🇿🇦 
pfhjvb0
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Speedbump, there’s plenty of objective evidence supporting the other point of view but, certainly it’s possible that there are things we simply cannot measure yet. So...as I said, if your perception is that one cable sounds better to your ear than another, by all means buy it.

But until we have the ability to prove otherwise, the fact is that your position that one can "hear the difference" is fundamentally where this position starts and ends. Pages of elaborate rhetoric may be persuasive to some, without supporting scientifically verifiable evidence, the argument that someone can "hear the difference" can easily be chalked up to confirmation and other cognitive biases (these biases are the issue, and are not consider "hallucination" btw).  

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millercarbon
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But until we have the ability to prove otherwise, the fact is that your position that one can "hear the difference" is fundamentally where this position starts and ends.

Right. Exactly. We can hear the difference. Period. Why you then go on and on with all that rhetoric about objectivity and measurements is beyond me. Surely you see how it only weakens your case?

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thyname
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Any measurements will NOT change the mind of these guys. We saw that first hand here with the posts on Iconoclast cables. Even when those measurements are shown, they say: they don’t matter, irrelevant, not audible, beyond human hearing threshold, very small to worry about, blah, blah, 😑

So why even bother? Nothing will do. These folks are firmly entrenched in their bunkers. 


mglik OP
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