Who says cables don't make a difference?


Funny, after all these years, people still say things like "you wasted all that money on cables". 
There are still those who believe cables don't make a difference.
I once did marketing for a cable line I consider to be about the best-Stealth Audio Cables. 
One CES, I walked the rooms with the designer/owner, Serguei Timachev. He carried a pair of his then new Indra interconnects. Going from room to room he asked the room runners to replace their source to preamp IC with the Indra. There was not one that was not completely flabbergasted and said that the Indras blew away what they were using. That was the skyrocketing of Indra and Stealth. The Indra became one of the best reviewed cables ever.
Serguei now makes the Sakra-an IC that blows away the Indra!
I don't understand why some still do not value cables as much as I.
mglik
Right. Exactly. We can hear the difference. Period. Why you then go on and on with all that rhetoric about objectivity and measurements is beyond me. Surely you see how it only weakens your case?

Actually, you think you can hear the difference, but that doesn’t mean there’s actually a difference. Many psychological studies have investigated this.  So, no, it doesn't weaken my case at all.  You could perhaps think of it like a placebo effect. For example, there have been studies with wine tasting that people who are blind tasting will score a wine higher if they are told it is expensive, and lower if they are told it is inexpensive. Yet in both cases they were tasting the same wine.

In short, the imperative is for those claiming that they can hear a difference (based on cabling) to actually be able to prove there is a difference... such as through instrumentation that can measure that difference or by being able to consistently identify the the supposed higher quality cabling in a blind test.


Pfh, when you have a large amount of data avaible on a subject, that is the statistics and science to help to,prove it. Phycology is similar, we can’t measure human thoughts and feelings, but we can gather data and with enough data we can indeed prove something. We don’t yet have the ability to know whether doses of vaccines will have negative effects, without trials. Someday we might have the ability to crunch the proper data with computers and get those answers without all the effort to gather the results in other ways. There is a not insignificant number of people who can hear differences, enough that there is a thriving industry that caters to them. Where’s the measurements that show I will like a particular amp vs another, or that there is even a difference between amps, or any audio equipment, that measures very similar. No such thing exists, yet we all readily acknowledge that we can hear differences. Products that on paper may look similar, can sound very different. And there is no way to measure what I will find sounds good, vs what you will. 
Hey @pfh... why do we have to prove anything? I don’t give a shit what you think. I don’t care if you think I am hallucinating.

If this subject does not interest you, move on. Why do feel the urge to post in a cable forum? Spend your time in things that interest you, whatever that is. Logical, no?