Are cables really worth their high price because of their geometry?

Mr. justmetoo

Do speaker cables have DF?
NO
Amp's have.
So the speaker cable is calculated per DF and length.
Still, resistance is all that matters.
Some had tried it, and the feedback was amazing.

I surmise that most audio cable naysayers cannot reconcile the cable's individual component costs with the final price.  Looking from this angle I can see how high cable prices can rub folks the wrong way.

However, I don't consider the manufacturing costs/retail price, rather, I focus on price/performance. 
For instance:
Option "A" use inexpensive cables
Option "B"  try out a say $200 cable hopefully for free (borrow, returnable).  Then I can decide if there is an uptick in performance, am I willing to pay $200 for this uptick?  I can still not purchase and be no worse than option "A".
With option "B", at least I have choices and additional information (a data point) with zero $ invested and the possibility to elevate my system.  
I suspect that many naysayers are not even willing to try, being emotionally resentful of the often steep pricing and entrenching their resentment with some argument.  

I'm also of the belief that everything in the audio chain matters.  Whether cables should be elevated to component level is subjective.  For me, because I believe cables sound different from one another, I treat them as components.  As I move up the audio food chain, I don't want my cables to be the weak bottleneck.

I agree that a lot of audio cable manufacture's advertisement/marketing is filled with a lot of subjective marketing hype, but I don't it reaches the level as being BS since BS can mean deceitful/lying. 

When researching/shopping for components, I give the most weight to opinions of audiophiles who has purchased/used the component with no skin in the game (like a dealer peddling his product).  If enough voices sing the same tune, I'm of the belief that I can obtain similar results if purchased - the caveat of course is it can be system dependent.  I give little/no value to manufacturer's hype.

Is a person who purchases a expensive audio cable being duped by marketing hype, placebo, or false imagination?  I'd say generally no, at least for the very expensive cables.  Seems most are educated professionals (with incomes enough to further splurge in this high-end hobby) who when you read their reviews/posts, are very serious about the performance of their systems and are deliberate/thoughtful on why they purchased the cable and how it performs. 
I don't believe that as the price of cables increase, their testimony validity decreases.  If so, what's that based on?

Audio BS Facebook group?  Taking a magnifying glass to outliers and calling it the truth is misleading.  You need to get an "impartial" sample size(s) to be able to make educated guesses/claims regarding the population as a whole.

Please help me out on this Geometry idea.
Is it comes to replace all others:
Bi wire
High purity OFC cable
Directional
Cryo treatment
Silver over copper
Skin Effect
Snake oil...
Or all still apply but the geometry was just added to the list?

Do we have any proof (measured, scientific or other), that shows any advantage of a cable with geometry vs a none geometry cable?
Or we just need to take the manufacturer and sales guys for granted?

I need to admit, that the list above, shows of great creativity.
I would also give them the credit of the convincing, as so many fall in and reached to their wallets...till the next idea came out, and it worked again and again.

But at the bottom line, after we all had our lesson, spending on no good cables, How come no one ever wondered, why do different cables sound different on your system?
As if it does, there is a physical or electrical relation between a better sounding and a less good sounding cable.
Did ever, a cable maker stepped up to say:

This is why cable A, sounds better than cable B ?

And please don’t bring up any of the list explanations. as none apply!
I figured it up guys. 
It works and works well.

@b4icu - ALL cables have a "geometry" - it refers the manner in which the wires in a cable are situated with respect to each other inside the cable sleeve (if it has one). Some examples of geometry are...
- parallel - such as Van den Hul speaker cables.
- twisted pairs - some are tightly twisted (and often referred to as Helix) and some have a "longer" twist like some Beldon cables
- ribbon - such as TOTL Nordost speaker cables
- braided - such as the lower end Kimber Kable cables
- Helix - this term has been used by many different brands and may actually refer to some very different geometries, so as a "term" you should not think they are all the same.

Geometry, as a "term", has been around for many years e.g. Kimber has always promoted their braided geometry. But referring to "geometry" by sales people may be something new.

Good Brands mostly reveal the geometry of their cables, often because they are difficult to replicate. If a brand does not reveal it’s geometry, I tend to shy away from them.

From all of the auditioning of cables and connectors I have performed over the past few years (literally hundreds of hours), I have found that the ear is amazingly good at detecting extremely fine details, i.e. once the observer knows what to listen for. I have also found that to hear the differences requires time to allow the cables/connectors to settle/burn-in.

Unfortunately for the consumer, my approach may not be a viable option. But the one thing I tell people is - when auditioning anything - take along your favorite LIVE RECORDING and listen for venue acoustics, those little echoes and reverberations present in the background, because these are the sounds that high resolving gear/cables will really bring out

When it comes to cable selection, the terms used in the advertising literature are sometimes "misrepresented", so how does a consumer proceed?
- with the internet it is quite easy to lookup information pertaining to the brands being considered - look for diagrams or explanation on how the cable is constructed
- ask people on this forum for their opinions on a cable’s performance
- self education on the various hyperbole being used by sales people to gain an understanding.

But the only real acid "test" is to try different cables - preferably in your own system...
- maybe a store will have loaners

OR - ask a store to audition a couple of different brands, but in the best system they have.

I once asked to audition a $600 streamer in a $60,000 system - the sales person obliged and got the sale - all for a 5 minute demo. It demonstrated just how good that streamer could perform - good cables will respond accordingly.

Hope that helps Steve