Jazz for aficionados

**** you realize you are condemning most of Jazz music. Think of all the standards that have been done a billion times. Autumn leaves? Are you saying once Miles did it, Peterson, Harris, Jamal, et al. were a waste of time? And what about the folks who did it before Miles? Does that make Miles a waste of time? ****

C’mon now, I think you know the answer to that! Of course not; and I’m certainly not condemning most of Jazz. You wrote something (can’t find it now) about “putting a new twist” on a standard. That’s the point. Miles’ “Autumn Leaves” is nothing like Jamal’s. Trane’s “In A Sentimental Mood” is nothing like Dexter’s; and, therein lies the problem. I hear no new twist with Thurman. It’s all been done before; not just the songs, but the WAY the songs are done.

We’ll just have to wait and see how she develops as an artist. As far as JALC goes, we’ll have to wait on that too. Probably until things get going again (post-Covid; if there ever is such a thing 😱). I have a hunch she will be part of the pool of “subs” and not a permanent member. Like all LC orchestras there is a probation period during which the band gets to play with a prospective member to decide whether it is a good fit. A good leader (WM) gives a lot of weight to what everyone in the band thinks. Notice she is not listed on the official roster.

I agree about Nimmer; great player.

Few put more of a new twist on things than Betty Carter.  Complete original:

https://youtu.be/ih7IrNMUWq0

https://youtu.be/FE9yZOanxko

https://youtu.be/2y9deitIrIU
(Btw, Lundy’s brother Curtis on bass)

Cora Lee Day & Debby Moore:

You can get both of these albums on the same CD at Amazon.  One of the first things I look for, with artists that are not known to me, is the label, and supporting personnel.   Speaks volumes.

Cora Lee -- didn't like her diction.  Strange pronunciation of some words. 

Debby Moore -- Much more interesting singer.  Much better backing.

The label of the CD on Amazon is called  'Best Voices Time Forgot'.  Ouch!
No reviews so far.   The Frogman's first law still stands.

Cheers 

Betty Carter:

Some performers are just too sophisticated for these country ears.   Perfect example of  New York-ish.   Nancy Wilson, although a stone fox, was another one.

More Mississippi-ish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXdC5D2PqoU

Cheers

@frogman

Good info on the inner workings of the Band at Lincoln Center. Puts everything in a different light. Wynton is betting on the potential.

Maybe his greatest contribution to Jazz is, teaching, encouraging and helping the young.

Where would we be without him.

Cheers

So, Betty Carter AND Nancy Wilson are “New York-ish”.   I can’t think of two more different singers.  What does “New York-ish” mean to you?