If you listen to all DK’s cd’s you will find that her voice differs a lot from recording to recording and also track to track. Pick the one’s you like most. Surely none of them are pure natural. Personally I like the Girl next door but it is to bassy in some parts. I use it for reference just because of that. You should not only use perfect recordings for reference. Close-miked recordings are often unlistenable on good systems, they’re done for radio. Have a listen to Bo Kasper "10 songs live".
Jazz vocalists which may not be as real as we think/imagine
Sure we could include all genres of vocalists, but lets focus on jazz performers,,for instance , take Diana Krall.
I have a pile of cds that i do not listen to, old rock,,, 2 are my wife's she picked up as gifts, and never listened.
So I figured maybe I can use DK's as a test reference recording.
Her 1999 and 2001, both seem to my ears her voice is somehow ~~tweeked~~ laid out with modern aids such as EQ's and such.
My Q is , can we really consider DK's voice to be The Real Deal,,, or a perhaps a toch of ~ The Fake if not perhaps, bordering on, fraud.
I really can not use her cds in my testing of new tweeks, mods, , Her voice comes across wayyyy too warm = Colored = a nono for my ears.
I am after pure cold frigid, icy clean mountain spring water.
Anyway, justa random thought,, what say ye? Have you noticed this quirk among other jazz performers such as Sophie Milman, which btw , i do use in my YT vid uploads of testing reference on tweeks/mods/upgrades.
Her voice is at least somewhat more~~ a natural~, Just barely,,had her engineers gonea tad too far in tweeking, I may have to also disreagrd her cds.
Sure you might object and claim all recordings post 1985, have these intrusions of tweeking /EQing the voice, as a makeover.
I don't know, maybe in the past 20 yrs things have gotten out of hand.
So cast your vote, is DK's voice real deal,, or a tad fake?
Can she perform unpluged as she does on high tech studio records?
I have a pile of cds that i do not listen to, old rock,,, 2 are my wife's she picked up as gifts, and never listened.
So I figured maybe I can use DK's as a test reference recording.
Her 1999 and 2001, both seem to my ears her voice is somehow ~~tweeked~~ laid out with modern aids such as EQ's and such.
My Q is , can we really consider DK's voice to be The Real Deal,,, or a perhaps a toch of ~ The Fake if not perhaps, bordering on, fraud.
I really can not use her cds in my testing of new tweeks, mods, , Her voice comes across wayyyy too warm = Colored = a nono for my ears.
I am after pure cold frigid, icy clean mountain spring water.
Anyway, justa random thought,, what say ye? Have you noticed this quirk among other jazz performers such as Sophie Milman, which btw , i do use in my YT vid uploads of testing reference on tweeks/mods/upgrades.
Her voice is at least somewhat more~~ a natural~, Just barely,,had her engineers gonea tad too far in tweeking, I may have to also disreagrd her cds.
Sure you might object and claim all recordings post 1985, have these intrusions of tweeking /EQing the voice, as a makeover.
I don't know, maybe in the past 20 yrs things have gotten out of hand.
So cast your vote, is DK's voice real deal,, or a tad fake?
Can she perform unpluged as she does on high tech studio records?
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pure natural. Personally I like the Girl next door but it is to bassy in some parts. I use it for reference just because of that. You should not only use perfect recordings for reference. Close-miked recordings are often unlistenable on good systems, they’re done for radio. Have a listen to Bo Kasper "10 songs live".
Yes some tracks on Sophie Milman have a certain level of bass db, that seem to hard driving on the small 6 inch midwoofers in the Thors, , the Defy7 has too much slam watts even at low vol, Might be the new Mundorf Supreme Silvergold caps adding that bass slam. One of the best reference cds for velvety bass riffs is Burt Bacharach/Elvis Costello's cd On picking through Diana Krall tracks, to have her best, , its not really something i like to do, Sophie Milman and Jacintha, both offer wonderful music , on all tracks. Same with Bacharach/Costello, That brings up our old rock days, we used to listen to lp's, and skip a bunch of songs as *duds*,, I think Diana Krall was a *1 hit wonder*, although she has more than 1 hit, its the *duds* you have to get through with. |
Bo Kasper
Yes Indeed, Bo casper, Sound via my $10 comp speakers has this super high fidelity, = incredible reference cd and the music is very good. Nice recommend, make any system sound Class AAA And thats how dealers would sell us grade C speakers, with high quality reference cds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Z9e6U5V4E |
Diana Krall is OK I suppose. Many audiophiles are very taken with her due to sex appeal. She takes a good cover photo. Sultry. There are so very many other truly excellent jazz singers to choose from. Why spend your money on her? If you want sultry, listen to Julie London. Or you could just listen to good jazz... Here are tracks for Wesla Whitfield Blossom Dearie Gal Costa Carmen McRae Catherine Russell Peggy Lee |
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