Are the loudness wars fake so record companies can destroy the music?

Why do you say it is a requirement? Not disagreeing, I just don't understand why.

Most sources, including radio, normalize loudness to some extent. It is the default setting in iTunes/Apple Music. So it would be unusual for a song to stand out significantly because of over compression. Having said that, there is quite a bit of variation in loudness on Amazon Music (normal resolution, I do not have hi-res at this point so can't speak to that.) Maybe there is a normalization setting in Amazon Music but if so I have not seen it.


Also, it isn't like a well recorded nominally compressed song has to sound bad in the car or with ear buds if loudness is normalized.

Anyway, I still don't get it and to me it seems like one of the biggest issues in hi-fi sound quality.


My conspiracy theory is that its just what everyone does because everyone has always (since early 90s) done it.


Mark Knopfler doesn't do it.......well not as bad as most, some of his stuff is moderately compressed. But I suspect Mark Knopfler 1) Knows what he's doing and 2) Does whatever he wants.

Just the way I see it is that most portable playback devices are so low on power that they need all the help they can get for the end user to play it loud.
Hence the over compression and loudness boost/ leveling whatever you prefer to describe it as.

The quiet passages just get lost on phone/ earbuds so they boost it up, reduce the dynamics range so it all sounds nearly the same level.

WE KNOW it's wrong but to the average consumer it works for them.

Maybe that's it.


And I agree, at this point it just seems to be a fact of life.

At the risk of hijacking the thread it seems to me is that the next question is what can we do about it? I'm not talking about changing the industry, I'm talking about what we can do within our systems to make an overly compressed song sound better.

I personally don't think you can do much. You just can't work with data that isn't there. One Audiogon member, I don't recall who it was, suggested that if you knew what you were doing and how to tweak your system and room etc you could make overly compressed music sound great.

I don't mean any offense and I'm probably the least qualified here to say so but I wouldn't believe it until I heard it. I'm sure it can be made to sound better, but I'm skeptical about a recording with a DR value of "4" (acceptable being 10 or more) ever sounding good.

I did experiment with  couple of Neko Case albums with average DR values of around "7" using the EQ in iTunes. You could mess with the curves and definitely improve things. That has always made me wonder about a component equalizer and if that would be effective. It also made me wonder if anyone makes a component EQ with presets that can be changed via remote.

With Sonos you have a very simple EQ and loudness setting. I have not played with that.

Damn
Sam

samjit,

"...caused the alpha waves in the brain to light up like a christmas tree on the EEG brain scan."

May I guess that you have never seen an EEG?