Should a reference speaker be neutral, or just great sounding?


I was thinking about something as I was typing about how I've observed a magazine behave, and it occurred to me that I have a personal bias not everyone may agree to.  Here's what I think:
"To call a speaker a reference product it should at the very least be objectively neutral."

However, as that magazine points out, many great speakers are idiosyncratic ideas about what music should sound like in the home, regardless of being tonally neutral.

Do you agree?  If a speaker is a "reference" product, do you expect it to be neutral, or do you think it has to perform exceptionally well, but not necessarily this way?
erik_squires
As soon as I read the thread title, to me "reference line" is the Companies to end product and as such, should blow me away...literally.....imo.
The biggest mistake people can make with hifi is spending money while having no reference to determine what it is they are trying to accomplish sound wise.

The second biggest mistake is thinking all recordings should sound a particular way. That will never happen. All recordings are different.

The third biggest mistake is not considering how well specific components will integrate as a system, including the room. That is what specifications are for. To provide a guide for making decisions based on more than just opinions, speculation or hype.
Erik, "reference" is just a marketing term. Marketing should mean absolutely nothing to everyone. 
With enough experience and technical information, along with knowing what one likes to listen to, you can evaluate a speaker based on it's design and specification. If it rings all the right bells then a good listen is in order. There is no place in this country I would not fly to to hear a speaker I was going to pay more than 20 grand for, less if the dealer was say within a 250 mile range.
Good point, Eric....getting lost in the semantics is but one lurch towards commentary chaos....+1

Mho.....(among others.....*G*)

Neutral > If I was to run a tone sweep through Spkr A, the trace on the waterfall RTA will match up to what my equipment (calibrated mic, all that..) will depict as close as possible, given as silent a test space as possible.  Any gross deviations become obvious...

Reference > As previously noted here, usually applied as 'hype' for the new 'type' of Spkr Z.  Unless one applies the previous routine to Z with favorable results, it just calls attention to Company Z's new 'high water mark' for their offerings.....

Now....I don't have any real favorites with regards to any particular brand or mfr.  I've heard/listened to various 'n sundry in v. 'n s. situations, locations; some have strengths, others with weaknesses, and then the ones you walk right by for whatever reason/rationale.

It's all subjective in the end....what fills your ears in 'That' way....and can be rationally afforded in whatever matter/means.

A personal observation that y'all can either have a laugh/jeer/contemplation over....

I'm 'away' from my personal space periodically.  This can be for a week; sometimes a month or three.  I have in that interval just the memory of that which I've left behind.

The longer the interval, the more my speakers may sound 'alien' to my ears, a certain familiarity has lapsed to varying degrees...

It may take a day or two to 'recover/revive' that acknowledgement of 'OK, nothing's the matter or wrong.....it's just Me.'

The psyc of sound, if you will. *G*  Anyone else have this experience?