Do you really use the formula for speaker placement?


There are lots of good discussions on here about improving the room your speakers are in to get the best listening experience. This includes speaker placement. I've moved my speakers all over creation and found where they sound good to me. But then I saw several "speaker placement calculators" and I thought, great, something else for me to tinker with.  :-)    Besides enforcing the standard guidelines of using an equilateral triangle between the 2 speakers and the sweet spot, and the speakers being equally distant from side walls, the formula specifies the optimum distance from the front and side walls. My room is 15.5 ft x 23 ft. The algorithm says the front of my speakers should be a little over 7 feet from the wall and a little over 4 feet from the side walls. The distance between the speakers then is about 80 inches, which is the measure for the sides of the equilateral triangle. Basically, I was about the same distance from the speakers as they were from the wall. I felt like I might as well be sitting between the speakers. For me, this algorithm did not result in a great listening experience. There are about 5 different algorithms, each arriving at slightly different results. Has anyone found success using one of these algorithms, for example, the Cardas algorithm? Or any other algorithm? Obviously, I'll let my ears be my guide. But I'm always open to the proposition that there's something I don't know that I could benefit from.
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When following the Youtube setup, were they perfectly equidistant with L and R toed in symmetrically the exact same amount? If not then how different were the distances and angles?

How exactly was the final Sumiko setup different? 

You're right about tiny distances making a big difference. So what exactly were the differences?
@millercarbon The youtube setup had the speakers equidistant. Frankly, it never occurred to me before the Sumiko Method that speakers would be anything other than equidistant from the listener--the normal equilateral triangle rule. And the youtube didn't mention making the toeing different. Again, I just assumed the toeing would be the same. That's why the "slant" idea was kind of a shock. I haven't experimented with unequal toeing. I assumed you'd want them toed the same to make the sound in the center, like voices, focussed. but now that you mention it, it takes 2 seconds to experiment. I don't know if anyone has tilted their speakers. I can't do that but wondered if that small change made a big difference.

@squeak_king. Thanks!
The reason I ask is the Sumiko setup has you moving one "anchor" speaker for bass and then the other, and then making lots of little adjustments all by ear. Nothing about symmetry, nothing about equidistance. Since I know equidistance is essential for imaging, and since a tape measure is way faster and more accurate than trying to do this by ear, I am curious how close to equidistant you got using that method. 

The next question would be if you did measure, then tweak just the one thing to be equidistant, does that improve the Sumiko setup. Because I know for sure it will, just curious if you tried.
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