Does the first reflection point actually matter??


Hello my friends,

So please read the whole post before commenting. The question is nuanced.

First, as you probably know I’m a huge fan of the well treated room, and a fan boy of GIK acoustics as a result, so what I am _not_ arguing is against proper room treatment. I remember many years ago, perhaps in Audio magazine (dating myself?) the concept of treating the first reflection points came up, and it seems really logical, and quickly adopted. Mirrors, flashlights and lasers and paying the neighbor’s kid (because we don’t have real friends) to come and hold them while marking the wall became common.

However!! In my experience, I have not actually been able to tell the difference between panels on and off that first reflection point. Of course, I can hear the difference between panels and not, but after all these years, I want to ask if any of you personally know that the first reflection point really matters more than other similar locations. Were we scammed? By knowing I mean, did you experiment? Did you find it the night and day difference that was uttered, or was it a subtle thing, and if those panels were moved 6" off, would you hear it?


Best,


Erik
erik_squires
BTW Eric, you seem to only be concerned with 1st reflections off the outside side wall. Don’t forget the effect of 1st reflections off the back wall, floor and ceiling. All important I think. Also consider the propriety of using the LE/DE methodology in setting up your room. When using box speakers I’ve always found a LE/DE set up (or something close to) best.

IMHO, this subject is almost as complex as rocket science due to the fact that the the results of set up and room treatments, most all of the sound folks hear is subjectively judged. Not a bad thing in itself but due to divergent expectations hardly a scientific approach (if one could even be heard). FWIW, I find it interesting reading recommendations for room corrections. Especially corner traps to improve low bass. Folks should look at an anechoic room and see what is really involved in setting up control of bass waves. Makes one wonder about ’bass traps’ typically recommended.

But to answer your original question, Yes 1st reflection points do matter and how you deal with them (not ’treat’ them) is very important if your goal is to obtain clarity and well developed 3 dimensional imaging. IMHO anyway.

YEs, the goal of treating 1st reflection points is typically to safeguard against early reflections which smear the soundstage and negatively impact imaging but can also be used to change teh balance of direct to reflected sound which directly affects soundstage and imaging.

This brings up a great topic, diffusion is better for imaging than absorption. :) 


Two different but similar things. YMMV with each.  Diffusion would serve no purpose with omnis like Ohms.   More directional designs, like my Kef ls50s in the next room, yes.
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