Just installed a bluesound node 2i , quality not so good


Sounds flat vs streaming from marantz 5014 heos, which is more revealing and open.  Both ways are wired.
Is there a break in period?  Otherwise it is disappointing.

I am listening thru b&w spkrs and mcintosh amp. And wired to analogue inputs of avr

thanks for any comments, suggestions


emergingsoul
@contuzzi

"Have any of you saying the DAC in the Bluesound is soooooo bad ever actually switched between the internal DAC and external dac while listening?"

well yes... of course... it is easy to do as the digital and analog outputs on the node play simutaneously -- otherwise how would one have the proper basis for commenting?  the ONLY way to know is to listen, extended, as well as A vs B, with db levels properly equilibrated

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i started streaming in february when the covid thing made us stay home a lot... i have been a hifi nerd since the 80’s in college, been through countless components and systems, but had procrastinated about streaming music for a few years

since climbing the learning curve on streaming i have now been through half a dozen streamers (no computer streaming) and to this point, fully 20 stand alone DACs from $400 to $4000...  it has been fun, and quite enlightening

the node 2i is a killer product, so well designed, does so much for the money, such excellent user interface (not to be taken for granted), but for what it costs they had to limit cost and performance somewhere, and the DAC is where they did it

having said that, they made a smart choice by making the sound of the internal DAC very smooth and inoffensive (as opposed to ragged and strident), but this occurs at the expense of transparency, transient capability/impact, imaging and ’air’

that is the first thing you notice plugging in a proper dac vs the node dac - like a chord mojo or 2qute or ayre codex or a denafrips ares - so much more richness, texture, speed and clarity in the music (if your system is even reasonably resolving)

as you move up in dacs from there, you more layering, more holographic imaging, more ease and natural flow to the music -- all the while feeling no loss of detail, it is just presented more naturally more effortlessly

a final note -- one thing that is ironic to me with the node is that for $500 they give you full MQA unfolding for Tidal Masters... premise being to get folks to try MQA for modest outlay.... problem is, the node's onboard DAC’s smoothing and cloudiness obscures most of what MQA brings to the party... so, given the success of the Node in its large sales volumes, i'm actually not sure if the MQA proponents are getting their intended marketing boost, or actually the opposite effect of having many with the node question its value...


A big improvement is to be had using Supra CAT 8+ ethernet cable. A 2-meter cable runs $59 including shipping from seller zendada on eBay.  Many lengths available.

Although its advertised as CAT 8+, that is a bit of advertising license, its really CAT 8, but made a big difference with my 2i.
@uberwaltz, I wasn't trying to get into it (and I was actually looking at the post above mine, not at yours). It seems to me like the Bluesound is what it is, and by all accounts is very good for what it is. I'm not sure that dolling it up with an external dac isn't the way I'd go about it. Gamblers have a term for it: chasing your losses.

Anyway, I don't like the hostility toward each other that surfaces too often out here, and I certainly didn't mean to offend.
Absolutely no hostility or even remotely similar.
I was just pointing out that you probably would not need to spend 1k on a DAC to hear a goodly improvement in SQ.
Certainly no offense taken here and not sure why my reply would have indicated any offense was taken.....lol.
Please have a great day and stay safe
Don't use AVR input.  Use the RCA input to your amp.  I have the bluesound node 2i and it is very good as a streamer and decent as a DAC.  I use it with coax output to Denafrips Ares ii.  I have a marantz streamer with heos and the bluesound is much much better.
Thanks for the info bluedream.  I was curious as to burn in on the 2i. I’m running the 2i through an April Music Stello signature,and the 2 through a Beresford Bushmaster. Not hi end by any means. However I do prefer running the nodes through these DAC’s.  At some point,I’ll try the 2i through analog just for poops and grins. I ran my original Node analog for years and was actually pretty happy with the sound. I ran the 2 that way for a while and was just as happy.  And just recently I wanted to experience a DAC,and I’m happy I did.