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Springs under turntable

I picked up a set of springs for $35 on Amazon. I intended to use them under a preamp but one thing led to another and I tried them under the turntable. Now, this is no mean feat. It’s a Garrard 401 in a 60pound 50mm slate plinth. The spring device is interesting. It’s sold under the Nobsound brand and is made up of two 45mm wide solid billets of aluminum endcaps with recesses to fit up to seven small springs. It’s very well made. You can add or remove springs depending on the weight distribution. I had to do this with a level and it only took a few minutes. They look good. I did not fit them for floor isolation as I have concrete. I played a few tracks before fitting, and played the same tracks after fitting. Improvement in bass definition, speed, air, inner detail, more space around instruments, nicer timbre and color. Pleasant surprise for little money.
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slaw
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@uberwaltz,

" some reduction in bass but it's generally tighter all around"

Bass is such a personal thing it seems. I'm a person who really pays attention to it. When I evaluate it in my system, I try to remember my live experiences, which are most always at a smaller venue.

We all have adjectives to describe it, but those are based on our on biases.

That's all....just food for thought.

Steve

indranilsen
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Hello,
When you guys put spring based isolation devices or any such floating devices do you ensure that the turntable is absolutely leveled? I use a circular level at the center of the platter to level the table. Normally w/o any footer my turntable is 100% leveled but with the springs underneath the table the most I can get is the bubble stay inside the circle but not as leveled as before. Does that even matter?
Thanks.
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slaw
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Yes! IME, it matters greatly. With my latest wall decoupling system, I can actually hear if the tt gets off level. A wall system, no matter how great is dependent upon the expansion/contraction of the studs. I use a 10" Bosch level. A longer level will give a more accurate reading.

Generally, for a tt with a non-inverting bearing, one does a final level on the platter, on an inverting bearing, the final level is on the plinth.
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Indran.
I had exactly the same when I put the pods underneath.
Fortunately the rack it is on has adjustment at bottom for leg height so was able to get the TT level again.
Just don't look at the rack.....lol.
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@slaw 
Bass is probably one of the most personal details there is.
Everyone has their own idea of what is "right".

And that's all we can do, tune and tweak to our own satisfaction.

My meaning was that bass was reduced from previously where it was slightly overblown so it was a good thing.
Definitely a lot tighter all round in every aspect.
Pretty stoked for $33 so far!
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