Springs under turntable


I picked up a set of springs for $35 on Amazon. I intended to use them under a preamp but one thing led to another and I tried them under the turntable. Now, this is no mean feat. It’s a Garrard 401 in a 60pound 50mm slate plinth. The spring device is interesting. It’s sold under the Nobsound brand and is made up of two 45mm wide solid billets of aluminum endcaps with recesses to fit up to seven small springs. It’s very well made. You can add or remove springs depending on the weight distribution. I had to do this with a level and it only took a few minutes. They look good. I did not fit them for floor isolation as I have concrete. I played a few tracks before fitting, and played the same tracks after fitting. Improvement in bass definition, speed, air, inner detail, more space around instruments, nicer timbre and color. Pleasant surprise for little money.
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Just a suggestion, try the springs between the wood platform and the concrete block.
Yes! IME, it matters greatly. With my latest wall decoupling system, I can actually hear if the tt gets off level. A wall system, no matter how great is dependent upon the expansion/contraction of the studs. I use a 10" Bosch level. A longer level will give a more accurate reading.

Generally, for a tt with a non-inverting bearing, one does a final level on the platter, on an inverting bearing, the final level is on the plinth.
@uberwaltz,

" some reduction in bass but it's generally tighter all around"

Bass is such a personal thing it seems. I'm a person who really pays attention to it. When I evaluate it in my system, I try to remember my live experiences, which are most always at a smaller venue.

We all have adjectives to describe it, but those are based on our on biases.

That's all....just food for thought.

Steve

My two Martin Logan Depth i subs are made '6 sided' with 3 equally opposing 8" drivers, This, as stated above, eliminates almost all internal vibrations. Several months back I put Stillpoints SS feet under each sub directly to my sprung wooden floor and they made a substantial positive difference. I already had these on hand. I plan on trying springs there at some point, in no hurry though.
@mads1,

Looked at the link you provided. I'd stay away from rubber or sorbothane if I were you.
@frogman 

+1. You may remember me talking about my many experiments with my VPI mkIV.

I ended up using Symposium Rollerblock Jr's in place of the springs. It was a revelation!
@noromance ,

www.partsconnexion.com

Every now and then Chris has some SolidTech stuff on sale. Worth a look if you're interested.
@rixthetrick,

I've experimented with the Tecknasonic devices years ago on my then, Monitor Audio Studio 20s. Even though those speakers were solid, those devises worked wonders!
I find it interesting that anytime I interject my experience in a thread, it goes dead. Sorry @noromance .
BTW, I bought a set of Connex from 
www.partsconnexion.com years ago. I didn’t like the acrylic, as there was some noise when the springs compressed. Nice to see the Nobsound out of aluminum.

You’ve got a lot going on there my friend. Way too much for me to try and analyse. As long as it works for you. Happy listening!

I totally agree on your "three embeddings".
@mahgister,

What type of platform are your speaker on and how is it supported?
@mahgister,

I've experimented with weights on top of speakers in the past, not on springs and found that it's easy to overdamp the cabinet. Not always a good thing.
Guys, I’ve been experimenting with springs in my system for years. I have, maybe, the hardest room type to get great sound out of with it being small and having larger than (I should) speakers in it.

What I’ve done has been a revelation for me. Check out my systems page.

Even within my decoupling platform for my amp/rack, I made an additional platform. The bottom is 3/4" MDF, the top is 3" maple. I recessed the springs into each mating surface at 1/8". The top of the maple platform is recessed to accept 3 halves of Symposium Rollerblock Jrs. The amp mates to the remaining halves. I’m using ceramic ball bearings in the Jrs.

I'm more about experimenting within my room by listening, the old school way.

"What is going on?"

You’re decoupling from floor bourne, mechanical, and acoustical vibrations.
Good for you my friend. I've tried to spread the spring solution around quite awhile.