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Poor Fritz

There’s no better value and no one as willing to make bespoke speakers out there than Fritz and these forums treat his speakers as if they cost $200K.
They don’t. They are remarkably affordable and yet potential customers put him through the absolute ringer, asking for custom features, going through 2 or 3 models of home auditions and maybe not even buying any of them.

Look, you buy what you want to buy, but I think not enough credit is given to the man or his speakers in terms of the overall value proposition and I think this is a disservice overall.  If you write a 5 page review, please keep this very much in mind that you are not reviewing Wilson or Focal's flagships.  Maybe he doesn't deserve quite the same scrutiny.

erik_squires
erik_squires OP
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Maybe start a more positive thread with something other than Poor Fritz, and redirect attention there.  A request to a moderator could delete this one.

I know without a shadow of a doubt that the same trolls would appear no matter what I named this thread.
nn
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On fritz website he shows that how smooth the impedance of his spkrs over the audio freq vs others. Does it mean for the same db of music in a room the other spkrs demand a large watt/current  amp for the db of music ? Also he mention about series xo .Any comments on this would be valuable.To a listener in the room how does this sound to the ears...is it audible.Thanks.
erik_squires OP
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HI NN,

On fritz website he shows that how smooth the impedance of his spkrs over the audio freq vs others.

Yep, that's a function of the series crossover design the man is fixated on. :)

 
Does it mean for the same db of music in a room the other spkrs demand a large watt/current amp for the db of music ?


No, what it means is, regardless of frequency, the impedance is relatively constant.   It is a super easy load and particularly beneficial to tube amps.   To compare it to a random, typical commercial speaker, like these monitor audio:

https://www.stereophile.com/content/monitor-audio-silver-300-loudspeaker-measurements

With a high impedance amp (i.e. tubes) the frequency response changes to match the impedance curve. This is less troublesome to solid state amps.

Also he mention about series xo .Any comments on this would be valuable.


The other benefit he claims is that because of how the parts are arranged, they stay out of the path of the drivers.  A $30 cap in his speaker is equivalent to a $300 cap in others. The schematic and series XO theory bear this out, but I've not done a listening comparison.  However, given that I think he has very good ears (based on listening to his products and conversations) I have to believe he's onto something.



erik_squires OP
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sorry @nn I should have tagged you in my previous post.
erik_squires OP
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Sorry, I need to clarify something, I wrote:

The other benefit he claims is that because of how the parts are arranged, they stay out of the path of the drivers. A $30 cap in his speaker is equivalent to a $300 cap in others.

What I should have written:

The other benefit he claims is that because the crossover components stay out of the path of the drivers in a series XO (which is true) a $30 cap in his speaker is equivalent to a $300 cap in others which greatly reduces the price he has to sell his speakers at to reach equivalent performance with a parallel crossover. 

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