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Desire to try tubes

So I am new to this have no audio contacts, and low budget it seems based on reading forum. I inherited my brothers Heresy I’s (and LP /CD collection) two years ago and started my journey. First bought a Rega P3 and Rega Fono stage running with existing 20 yo Denon 5.1. Then upgraded the Hereseys from Crites with crossovers and new tweeters (46 yo units). Months later after research and savings bought Stellar GCD and Stellar S 300 amp along with Syzygy SLF 870 sub from Underwoodwally. Nice! Next Marantz 6006 CD as transport and Underwood Emerald Physics and Core Power gold power cords and speaker cables. As able Audio Quest entry connects for all. Each move improved sound. Added a Bluesound node 2i as well only listening to Pandora though. I have no reference to options as I’ve only owned Hereseys and never heard a tube amp in a home and am very curious if a tube pre-amp would be a big plus? If I tried one could muster up to 5k. Just looking for the best sound quality I can afford.
Room is 14.6 x 14.10 x sloped ceiling 8-13’ with 5’ flat section at 13.
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jjss49
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@skypunk

if you and miller have a history or grudge, take it offline

don’t know who did who wrong... doesn’t matter, rest of us here don’t care

let up and chill - none of this helps the op who posted here looking for advice and useful input

miller is happy being a cartoon character here, rest of us hold our noses, mostly ignore

no need for you to add to the pollution - you have a full life... go live it
sgreg1
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You should try the Shiit Freya + for sure. Under a grand tube stage that you can engage and disengage preamplifier. Get it home try it out if you don’t like you can send it back. This unit performs way above its price, you can always spend more money but that does not mean it will be better. I have done a ton of research into this and always found that tubes in the preamplifier was the best way to go.
veerossi
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Please consider the Line Magnetic LM805ia. New around $5k and you can find a used one for less. It’s a 300b 42wpc SET integrated which will rock your world, Brother!
- Hulk Hogan
After rolling all the tubes, amp upgraditis will be a thing of the past.
cat_doorman
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It may be to your advantage to buy an inexpensive or used pre amp to start with and experiment with tube rolling. From what I’ve read some modern amps aren’t as differentiated by what might be considered the typical “tube” sound - tube amps sounding more SS and SS amps described as “tubey”. Apparently there’s more overlap than there used to be, but I’ll need to listen to a lot more amps of both kinds before I could possibly form a first hand opinion.

This year I got my first tube amp and tube pre to replace a 20yo SS integrated. When playing around with setups I noticed a more profound difference when changing between the tubed pre and the integrated’s pre out with either power section than when changing between power sections with either pre. The kicker is I’m using a $400 Schiit Saga+ with a $50 NOS tube. Of course I don’t think one would work for your setup because it has no gain and you probably need some with the phono stage. I’m just trying to give an example of a tubed pre making a bigger impact than might be expected. 
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charles1dad
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Hi Veerossi,
I also think that the Line Magnetic 805ia  is an excellent recommendation. One minor correction, this integrated amplifier uses 300bs as driver tubes. The output tubes are the DHT 805 producing 48 watts per channel. That’s a lot of SET  class A power for the very efficient Herseys.
Charles
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