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Pre to meet 2021 goals

I'm looking for recommendations on what you would consider a "valuable" pre-amplifier. I want to evaluate different topologies of amplifiers, so if there is something that would be at home (gain, etc) going from a First Watt J2 to Decware Zen Triodes, to Atmosphere S-30 to vintage Conrad Johnson tube mono's, please advise. Maybe throw in a pair of Nagra Pyramids along the way! 

Most of my experience has been with integrated amplifiers. I've enjoyed integrateds  from Luxman (550, 590) McIntosh, Simaudio, Audio Research, Leben (300X, CS600), Mastersound, Almarro, etc. I listen to and tweak gear for 2-3 months before moving from impression to forming a real opinion, rarely owning something for less than a year or more, unless I find myself not pressing the power button.  

I have great sound from my Devore O/93, Leben CS600, Mojo Audio dac and power supplies, Roon Nucleus with Tidal and Qobuz. I'll be adding this pre alongside the Leben just to experiment and have fun with amps that peak my interest, or that friends own locally. I tend to gravitate towards tubes and the warm side of neutral.

I'm open to end game recommendations, but audio for me is an adventure where I enjoy variety. I have enough quality stable relationships in my life- electronics doesn't need to be one of them. If you want to share a story about how you settled on an amp or a topology please do.  If you want to criticize my methods go for it. If you need to rage about politics feel free.

Thanks!          

 
bjesien
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@bjesien Excellent! Really enjoyed reading that and I think it's quite informative for my purposes.

I'm interested, especially, in the nature of attention, and often when people switch gear a lot, it's due to an inability to pay deep attention. In your case, your desire to switch gear is a sign (to me, anyway) of very deep attention, and I truly love your statement, "I want to eat what the chef likes to make." When I put together my system, I sought advice from lots of folks, and the ones who had the biggest influence were those who asked me questions but also seemed to have a genuine cast to their own preferences. The notion of trying on different "takes" is a great one, because if one can surrender their preferences (and the quest for the "ultimate sound"), they get to experience things from a variety of perspectives. Thanks again for writing that out.
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mrdecibel, thanks for your Benchmark suggestion, I will add it to the list and have a look. I relate more to the sledge hammer game at the carnival.  After you get enough of the form correct you can usually ring the bell.      
hilde45, I appreciate the follow-up, and thank you for making me think about my quest into audio.  The competition for these designers is stiff, and from what I understand one really needs to shine on the world stage to truly succeed.  I consider myself blessed to be in a position to appreciate a small fraction of their work.  
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@bjesien  

I know you mentioned the Mk V, but would you recommend going older in the VAC line too?

Sorry, I don't have any experience with the older VAC preamps.  I picked mine up used less than 1 yr old for ~$5K.  Can't see how you can do better for the price and for my listening priorities.
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@bjesien

as for conrad johnson i have their et-5 and premier 16ls2 linestages ... their top of the line is the GAT... that would be what they consider their best, diminishing returns rule applying of course

i would say try a GAT or et-7 mk2 to get a good idea of what they are capable of

one note - cj gear is single ended only... not balanced

good luck
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@hilde45 I hope you post a link to your paper once you’re done. I for one would like to read it. Like most hobbies, I’m sure there’s a gamut of approaches and motivations based on each individual’s background, perceptions, resources, and skill set. Some learn to cook, others only dine. Like most sensory pursuits there are components of preparation, execution, ritual and consumption. I think some of us can lose sight of the presumptive goal while in the process, and the journey becomes an end in and of itself. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, it’s just a path unintended. 

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