Springs under turntable


I picked up a set of springs for $35 on Amazon. I intended to use them under a preamp but one thing led to another and I tried them under the turntable. Now, this is no mean feat. It’s a Garrard 401 in a 60pound 50mm slate plinth. The spring device is interesting. It’s sold under the Nobsound brand and is made up of two 45mm wide solid billets of aluminum endcaps with recesses to fit up to seven small springs. It’s very well made. You can add or remove springs depending on the weight distribution. I had to do this with a level and it only took a few minutes. They look good. I did not fit them for floor isolation as I have concrete. I played a few tracks before fitting, and played the same tracks after fitting. Improvement in bass definition, speed, air, inner detail, more space around instruments, nicer timbre and color. Pleasant surprise for little money.
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Spikes vs. Springs
They are obviously selling something but bring up some interesting observations.

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Your tympanic membrane moves immediately in conjunction with the pressure front created by whatever frequency of sound you care to talk about including bass. This movement occurs immediately and does not wait for a full wavelength to pass. But, it does take a period of time before the sound is registered and interpreted by the cerebral cortex. This probably occurs at the same time for all frequencies. Now, in deep bass it becomes not only hearing but feeling that are involve in assessing the sound. At some point it becomes only feeling if the volume is loud enough to register at all. 
The job of the enclosure is to isolate the woofer's rear from it's front waveforms so they do not cancel and to hold the woofer rigidly in space. Any movement of the woofer distorts the waveform. If the enclosure is sufficiently heavy and stiff it does not matter what it rests on. Unfortunately, that is a very difficult goal to reach so it is always best to anchor the subwoofer to a large immovable object like your house. 
The way I use my subwoofers is significantly different than say millercarbon. I cross over to them much higher at 125 Hz. This is up into the range that can be located. So my subs have to be arranged around the satellites in a symmetrical pattern to maintain a proper image. 
I also have to duplicate the radiation pattern of a line source so that the subs can keep up with the satellites as distance away from the speakers increases. It is certainly true that a bass instrument's higher frequencies and harmonics locate the instrument. The fundamental does not even have to be there. What goes AWOL is the sensation. I can make an EQ preset that chops everything under 40 Hz. Switching back and forth between the normal curve and the 40 Hz chop will not change what you here so much but all the sensation you get being at a live concert will disappear, gone. Those frequencies under 40 Hz are what makes music breath. Unfortunately, it is so easy to corrupt that end of the spectrum with room problems, phase inconsistencies, poor enclosure design and execution, and under powered amplifiers.  But, when you get it right it is a beautiful thing.
Mijostyn's sub array worked for me (I don't have nearly the quality of subs that mijostyn has) primarily because of my room set up did not accomodate sub placements throughout the room. (Thanks mijostyn). I also cross pretty high based on the simple premise that I wanted a speaker (sub) to "take" the "whole" instrument. A tweak that might work for those using an array is sending left channel signals to the left side subs of the array and right to the right. On many recordings, it's clear, by hearing and feel, that that double bass is clearly on the left of center. YMMV.
@mitch2  thanks for posting Townshend link, I use them with Cube speakers and imo they improve clarity.

I came across this which may be of interest as well

https://youtu.be/5ihzvD3urc4


@Derek, that is the right way to set them up as dedicated right and left channels. What crossover point are you using ? You do no want to go too high. Some harmonics coming from bass instruments are up in the mid range. Certain sounds like strings tapping the fretboard may be up in the treble. Bass instruments are usually mix towards the center so both channels are operative. You can go mono with high crossover points because you will start messing with the image to some degree. Mono is not a problem with crossover points below 80 Hz as we all know that localization is difficult below 80 Hz. The sub also do not need to be arranged symmetrically around the satellites although to me asymmetry is visually disturbing. (there's that silly brain again). For people whose woofer driver carries a substantial amount of the midrange a higher crossover is a large advantage lowering distortion in the midrange. This is typical of two way speakers. Putting subwoofers under LS3 5A's is quite the experience. With your eyes closed you would swear it was a much larger system. You open your eyes and see those little things and you start looking for the other speakers.