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Another Bass discussion...

One thing I’ve never understood is how some audiophiles can go straight 2 channel set ups without a sub. Even floorstanders can’t get way down there in the frequency range. I’m almost Certain that I’ve got my subs too loud for proper bass integration. I don’t care tho. I like to feel the bass. Literally feel it when a kick drum is hit. I don’t need it to shake my teeth loose but I like to feel the low bass notes even though I know many people think it’s incorrect and/or too loud. At a concert I feel the bass. Even watching friend’s bands practice I remember being able to feel the instruments when played. I want to feel the bass when I listen to my stereo. 🤷🏻‍♂️ So sue me. That’s all. 
paulgardner
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dentdog
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IMO, for good bass you have to move enough air. I know, with good floor standers one can certainly hear the low bass notes. If that's it for you, great. 
I have ZU Def 4s and they have really good bass. But the pair of REL 212s pushed it to great bass. Took about 3 months of moving them but now I guess you could call it big bass. Guess I'm needy.
paulgardner OP
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@dentdog damn right! I’m running two REL S510s and I can’t imagine ever going back to one sub let alone no subs! I’m running them with B&W 805d3 stand mounts. Sounds incredible. I’d really love to see what, or if I’d gain any significant midrange if I was to try the floorstanding 804d3. So much fun!!!
erik_squires
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So your observation is that you only care about bass, and you could care less about how well it integrates with the rest of your system??

Then why are you surprised audiophiles want to listen to all kinds of music, really well, that may or may not include a heavy bass track, and that when it does, they want it to be accurate and loud, instead of merely loud?
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three_easy_payments
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I can completely see how a pair of subs would be a necessity with a pair of B&W standmounts.  
paulgardner OP
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@erik_squires of course not. I appreciate and enjoy the fullest range that I’m capable of experiencing. I just don’t understand the 2 speaker system. I’ve heard plenty of them that sound nice but would argue could sound better with more bottom end. I also listen to a wide variety of music genres. 
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