very very few mains will put out full volume 20 hz bass at the listening position..they are rated -3 db at a few inches away at low volume...I cross my subs over at about 38-40 hz...
Why so obsessed with bass?
Such a obsession to deal with bass issues. Why is this?
On a sub if there is too much rumbling simply turn it down.
As far as mains these probably are not much of an issue for most of us. However for bookshelves speakers it makes sense they really aren’t well designed for lower range frequencies.
On a sub if there is too much rumbling simply turn it down.
As far as mains these probably are not much of an issue for most of us. However for bookshelves speakers it makes sense they really aren’t well designed for lower range frequencies.
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very very few mains will put out full volume 20 hz bass at the listening position Well, depends what you mean, but room gain is quite powerful. Take a look at what my two-way speakers with a 6.5" woofer can do: https://speakermakersjourney.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-snr-1-room-response-and-roon.html I’m not saying my speakers’ are exceptional, I’m using them as an example that most audoiphiles don’t know how much bass they have, which then leads them down several paths to disappointment. The -3db point of any speaker is a very poor indicator of how deep bass will go, or how it will be perceived in any given room. Best, Erik |
Emergingsoul asked: "Do subs generally do an inferior quality vs a high end main?" At the risk of overgeneralizing: The biggest hurdle to high quality bass is the speaker’s interaction with the room. This will cause a nasty peak-and-dip pattern no matter how high the quality of the speaker or subwoofer, and no matter where they are placed within the room. But two speakers in two different locations will each produce a different peak-and-dip pattern in the bass region, and the SUM of these two different peak-and-dip patterns will be smoother than either one alone. Therefore, I would expect TWO high-end main speakers to probably produce higher quality bass than a SINGLE high-quality subwoofer (looking at bass quality alone, and not at extension - which is where subwoofers excel). As the number of widely-distributed bass sources goes up, the sum of their in-room response becomes smoother, and "smooth bass" = "fast bass". This is the concept behind the use of multiple subwoofers - in other words, it’s actually about QUALITY, not QUANTITY. Whether or not it’s worth the hassle is an individual judgment call. Duke commercially affiliated with a distributed multi-sub system |
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